Powerlevelers in dunesFollow

I think you'll find that it's this way in a lot of the lower-level (ie: below 37) parties lately. The main reason being that the majority of people on the server are now into their higher levels, and are leveling up subs, sub subs, tenth jobs, etc. Going through the Dunes once or twice is ok, and is actually fun. Going through the dunes to level a support job for your support job gets a bit tedious. Naturally, more people have started powerleveling, especially if they are trying to get someone caught up for a set party, or other such things.

Your best bet, if you really want to avoid having a power leveler "help out," is to make your own party, or ask the party if they have a power level before you join.

Otherwise, just enjoy the free XP while you can. Before long, it actually becomes dangerous for the person who is doing the powerleveling. It will eventually stop, and parties that stand on their own will become much more common.

I might be one of those Power Levelers out in the dunes. Mostly I help out friends and linkshell mates, we try to keep the parties strictly linkshell. Powerleveling does ruin new players but for old players looking to just get the dunes over and done with in a day I don't think its too bad.
a power lvl should not affect your ability to tank,heal,dd whatever. That is an aquired skill and honestly you wont be good overnight.Dont forget some of those "subjob less" people might just be someones mule -Statistics show that alot of people play multiple characters. If you dont like having a power lvler in your group you can always leave and find another party. Good Luck

Honestly a good pwr lvler will have their group (which i refer to as my ducklings) lvl 9-11 kill bunnies then sheepies. once people hit lvl 15 you take then to Korroloka tunnel. I prefer to power lvl people in Jugner Forest you have no compitition and the xp is good. While most people compete for crabs and pugs in Valk with a power lvler you will go Bunnies => Sheep & Flies with Gobs a plenty.
I know its nice having a pwr lvler nearby when your party kicks the bucket :P

Well personally having taken 4 jobs through valkurm was kinda fun but with all the bad rep its getting now because the recent wave of suckier then normal noobs, i would rejoice at having a pl in valkurm and even qufim. Just enjoy it while it last because sooner or later it will get dangerous for the pler, unless your like 2 taru which i wont name that have a certain 75 rdm which i wont name pl them at level 60+.

That's another reason why, personally, I don't like plvln random pts. Most of the New ppl coming in are jerks, although it may not be all of them, it's a large majority. Letting those kind of ppl get higher is wrong in itself >.>
IMO: Plvl = Good, only for Friends/LS

I had a friend that plvled me when i first got to the dunes. Actully he watched me play and corrected me and told me things to watch for ect ect. Thats alot better for a new gamer to ffxi. Ive had some great parties going through as mnk, war and drk but my pld....almost didnt make it. a friend helped me get 2 lvls that i would have dlvled to 15 on lol. I can understand why people want them (somewhat) But yall seem to be decent plvlers most ive seen run along with 1 person and basically do everything for a pt so healers get a free ride which gimps their magic skills and teaches the melee bad habbits like not watching pt members health and provoking. I just wish it wasnt happening on such a large scale. /sigh

As a whm when I go through the dunes and generally keep myself anon becuase I dont like people asking for pls unless I'm shouting out that I have time and the patience. Generally I don't, and I'm found in the dunes visiting friends that are leveling something there. I was visiting a friend who was leveling monk a few weeks ago, and I was surprised to find him tanking. Now at low lvls and maybe even some higher ones you can do that but generally its a good idea to find a real tank. So I sat down to med and watched them fight a few battles and when one of them got low I'd toss out a cure while I was chatting with my friend.

The whm eventually stopped curing. When I asked why, the guy I was talking to said, "They think you're a PL."

Kinda made me PO'd that they were taking it for granted that I was there. So I left. And now I realize that if I visit friends in the Dunes I have to keep anon up and not throw out any cures or do anything to make anyone guess what job I am.

I only pl my friends through dune and qufim.. cuz they want get out those place asap.. but if i see "newer" player in their pt, i'm gonna try to sit out as much as possible only do emergency cures and stuff.. so the newer player actually learn how to play the game.

so true. I prefer not to be voked off when I pwr lvl just so I can save mp. poor thing :( My first 2 jobs I did w/o a power lvl..my first ever power lvl I got for my thf from 12-16 then hit 28 myself. I learned the pwr lvlr is boss and a good one will have you getting lvld up FAST.
Say, you have someone who lvld blm & whm to 50 and now they want to test the waters as a DD or god forbid a tank - they should NOT get a power lvl because they wont learn what they need to do. SOme of the shoddiest mages I know were DD or Tanks who changed to a mage job thinking they will get parties easier...and of course got pwr lvld...and they suck. RDMS who refuse to heal and fancy themselves strictly melee, WHMS who expect their bard to main heal *cough that was my poor bard cough* blm who die because the go nuke crazy and then cant understand why noone could get hate off them. So yeah...if you are normally a mage or melee and its your first time trying something "new" do NOT get a pwr lvl

This is why I love server outages. Classic threads return to remind us of days past. ^_^

Hehe, I'm guilty of voking off the powerleveller in one of the few partys I've been in that had one. It just didn't feel right not doing my "job" as war. Being a kind Taru I felt sorry for that poor fragile Elvaan/Hume (big person, they all look the same) taking a beating from a too weak Goblin (well, beating.....it was 99% misses but still....) :P

only time i will accept a PL is if its
A. a friend of mine
B. someone needs to level, and this is a Subjob and the Party knows wtf theyre doing
C. im soloing a job less than 1k XP... (only happened 2x. thanks necrid X3 thanks Gogo. )

only time ive PLed was for Gogo, i pled her as a 40DRG XD she nuked, i cure2ed, pissed off mob, took agro, she rested, nuked, i cure2ed... etc...
that was funny... i got alot of wtfs in qufim that day X3 but gogo got her level, and afterwards i got a PT XD

that was funny.

I think you guys missed his point. He's switched jobs and is trying to learn a new job and how to play it. I can see where this is not a good thing for a tank class to have a PL, especially someone who has never played a tank class before. After all, the PL ends up tanking most of the time.

So how does the new tank learn to keep hate or any thing else? You can expand the argument and ask how does the new WHM in this party learn what level of curing causes problems for the tank? Or the BLM learn where the hate threshold is for nuking?

His point is a good one. Sure it may be a sub,sub job. But it's not just another trip through the dunes. it's a new job with new roles to learn. The entire point of parties and how they progress through the areas was designed to teach everyone their job and its interaction in the group. Sure you may be a level 75 PLD, but at 14 WHM, do you really understand everything a WHM needs to do just becuase you had one in your PT for the first 75 levels? or the 37 Levels for your WAR? Or just reverse that.

Eventually you are going to be in a PT with people who expect you to have learned your job and a level 26 PLD in the Jungle is a REALLY bad time to find out that the WHM isn't supposed to be doing the tanking.

EDIT: Just occured to me how odd this is. I can recall people complaining about PL being a detriment to the game experience for exactly the reasons I just gave. Too many people not knowing how to do their job correctly or at least well, due to too much PL.

Edited, Thu Apr 14 16:45:42 2005 by airamis