A Word on Abusing ExploitsSep 29th, 2004 at 6:13 AM by Haggan

This is from Square-Enix: We have confirmed an issue wherein it was possible for players to acquire gil freely from within FINAL FANTASY XI. This issue has already been addressed by our technical staff. Players found to be exploiting this method will be dealt an appropriate punishment, which may include PlayOnline account cancellation. Though you may be curious, please remember that exploiting flaws in the game is not something we can tolerate. We develop our software carefully so that such issues do not occur. However, should you come across an aspect of the game that may be not working as intended, please contact a Gamemaster or use the appropriate mail form to notify us. It would help us tremendously if you can describe the situation and the steps you took in discovering any such flaws. However, it is not necessary to report the names of any players you suspect to be abusing any of the above mentioned issues for their benefit. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
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Strange word association
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# Sep 29 2004 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
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How did people read this announcement as having anything at all to do with botting or gil-selling? Last I heard, those Chinese websites were not "within Final Fantasy XI".

Please keep your complaints in their own topic and don't clutter up the announcements with this crap. Every game has bots, and keeping them out of the game is like keeping viruses out of Windows. For every one you stamp out, two more take its place.

I was also going to question whether one could accidentally stumble upon something like this and get banned (like the "tipping" fiasco in SWG) but after seeing the process, it's pretty unlikely that it would happen of its own accord. Still, if you happened to start D/Cing, I wonder if you could /panic and tell a GM pre-emptively and still keep your account if you uncovered a glitch like that... with their customer service lately, it's questionable. >_>
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Gil farming
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# Sep 29 2004 at 11:01 AM Rating: Decent
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I just had to chime in on this.
People that take advantage of a flaw in a game make the experience suck for other people. I can see where SE is coming from because some people will quit the game for this... and that means less paying players.
Exploiting the world should be punished, and I am glad SE is doing something about it. Exploiting is exploiting no matter how you go about doing it. Loopholes in the system or bots are all the same to me.
I find fooling around with bots kinda fun. Getting laughs from people that shouldn't be doing it in the first place. ^_^ Bots have more loopholes than the environment they are in.
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In the interest of disclosure
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# Sep 29 2004 at 10:23 AM Rating: Good
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They're probably talking about this:

http://www.rpgexpert.com/3029.html


Doesn't take much Googling to get an idea of what's going on.

As much as people talk about gil-sellers destroying the economy, it has *nothing* on an item-duplication trick like this. Especially when the item you can duplicate is stacks of gil sent to yourself.


Since the bug has already been addressed (presumably GMs are watching for it; the linked thread has tales of people being banned in under 20mins for exploiting it!), and since the game likely has plenty of ways for devs to track who sent what to where, the odds of being able to exploit it now are near zero.

It's important to disclose things like this so people know wtf is going on, and so that you know why you shouldn't do it.

Edited, Wed Sep 29 11:26:53 2004
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It's not about gil sellers/botters...
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# Sep 29 2004 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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It's not the gil sellers or the bots, it's the new bug in CoP.

Stanislaw wrote:
Actually, I think they were refering to the items bought/sold in stores in Tazvania. There was one item, called the "Baron Cuisses" (I play on the JP version, not sure of the proper English Name - Leg Armor, Def32, STR+2, Attack+6, Enmity+1, Bonus TP when Jumping), that could be bought in a Tazvanian store for 4042200G, and apparently could be sold right back for 4142200G. There was also a store that sold Movalpolos Water that could be purchace for 180G in stores and sell it back for approx 200G.

So yeah, I could kind of see why people would want to exploit that badly and why SE had to make quick changes to that.
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*sigh*
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# Sep 29 2004 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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They find a bug, glitch etc... they find u exploiting this bug u might get banned, ur account cancelled maybe sued i dunno.

U as a loyal player find a bot or gilfarmer, u talk to GM reporting that, u might have one of these answers:
1.- We are aware of the situation, thank you for ur cooperation we are doing our best
2.- ... .... ... ... ... ... ... 2 hours later. Where was the bot?
3.- I don't think that guy was a a bot. U go to the Jail.

So please SE, don't mess with the players who love the game, Start doing something about gilfarmers and bots.

that's my opinion.

Edited, Wed Sep 29 11:03:40 2004
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Bots=Enron
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# Sep 29 2004 at 9:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, I'm impatient, and a whm! So i can't just go kill things so easily for crystals to sell or for good drops! :D i wish i could, SE get working on that, Just kidding!

The Bots that log/mine, and Diabolos has quite a few running around, annoy the crud out of me! This game is tough, and the economy is tough. I love that fact, but "cheating" for gil makes it unfair, like Enron in the real world!
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#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 29 2004 at 9:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This isn't a bug, they are talking about gil sellers. People who make hundreds of millions of gil and then sell it, for real cash money, to people on the internet. If you've ever been to the Killing Ifrit forums they have ads all over the place for this form of cheating. I'm glad they're finally going to do something about this, it's ******** up the economy of a lot of servers.
RE: this isn't a bug
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# Sep 29 2004 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Did you read the message?

It says "We have confirmed an issue wherein it was possible for players to acquire gil freely from within FINAL FANTASY XI" also "exploiting flaws in the game is not something we can tolerate."

Both of these do not make me think of gil sellers...
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# Sep 29 2004 at 9:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Bah, had to log in, tried posting 3 times lets see if it works now lol. The glitch is a copy glitch, it lets you copy any item or gil, thats what there talking about, not the chinese farmers
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Yay!!!!
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# Sep 29 2004 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm from the Kujata server and there are many bots there. Or so I think. Most of them seem to have ~cat to their names (maybe because they are mithrans o.O). Well all they do is farm all day all the time none stop. The only time they stop is when need to go drop of their goods. Plus they say they are Chinese o.O. So I think that its good that SE is trying to eliminate these programs. Good bye Ninacat! Good bye Lillithcat! Good bye Linacat! Good bye Ninablack! [Good bye] [everyone] [See you again!] [Take Care!]
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Well.
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# Sep 29 2004 at 8:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I am a bit curious, not like the knowledge would hurt us now that they've fixed it.
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T.T
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# Sep 29 2004 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
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what is this exploit? I'm not looking to know how it's done, just what it is.

Edited, Wed Sep 29 09:54:03 2004
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yum
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# Sep 29 2004 at 8:47 AM Rating: Decent
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EAT THE RICH!
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. . . SE. . .
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# Sep 29 2004 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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"Though you may be curious, please remember that exploiting flaws in the game is not something we can tolerate."
Have they done anything about NM bots or fishing bots. . .well they have tried on teh fishing bots but they still come back. Now this. . . a GIL glitch. Of all things that could happen a gil glitch. Now we know how some of the uber rich people got thier money. SE needs to do something about these glitches and bots.
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RE: . . . SE. . .
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# Sep 29 2004 at 8:54 AM Rating: Default
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actually bots are not bugs... bots are external programs interacting with the final fantasy xi program to execute commands without a player at the keyboard... bugs are little loopholes in the programing of the software itself that are usually missed or overlooked because either a ) a script compiler seeing coding that works but is put togethor in a way that is unintended thus not getting picked up before implementation... (this is unlikly as most advanced programing would not use such a compiler or would not be even able to use one without counting a very basic compiler...) or b)using functional in game methods to do soemthing unintended and unforseen by the programers (this is basically a rehash of a with a slight difference.)
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>_<
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# Sep 29 2004 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
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Of all the bugs for me to miss... XD
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