?? Iksar Banned from Plate? Maybe you should check out the Warrior PLATE armor dropped from Plane of Growth... War/ALL https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4133

From what I understand the cleric (@39) gets a 7500 hit point heal Druids and Shaman(@58) get a 75 PERCENT heal so lets see Warrior has 6000 hp beat down to 120 hp cleric cast CH and presto the warrior is again full health. Now with the 58 Druid he gets to heal 4500 hps that is 1380 hit points shy of max hp. Umm I think the cleric was made more realistic besides that was a heal @39 so I bet there will be another "complete" heal around 55.


Forgot to mention ummm is there another rezzing class added to the game ? I know druids cant rezz for 96 % xp. =O

Edited, Wed Oct 9 22:03:45 2002

I am a lvl 55 monk and JUST broke 1000 ac unbuffed. I have pretty good gear but nothing super uber. Are they smoking dope at Verant? Monks have great dmg output but are cleric mana sponges when it comes to taking dmg. Leave us alone Verant!

Ok alot of you say that the change was needed for the monks. i say Bull^%^&. I play a lvl 51 iksar monk and do not even have a thrid of hp's a warrior has. Plus if you look at monk equipment that is not NO DROP, you will see maybe ac24 beening the highest ac on a tunic/robe for monks, and what for warriors it is like ac45+. If they do this change they need to give monks some more hp's because we can not tank as well as most people think. I may have been MT in Lguk but when i go to chardok and mobs are hitting me for 100+ i do not have the HP's to take the damage so i have to back off a bit and try not to take agro. And know they are nerfing us because the few people that have the awsome highend gear that VERANT made that you need a high in guild to get i just have one thing to say......THANK YOU VERANT FOR RUINING YET ANOTHER CLASS.
Furestfist
lvl 51 Disciple
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lvl 16 Wizard

Change the stats on that gear, and the available classes that can use it, etc. That's gotta be easier & more likely to not **** off so many people as changing the entire class. those Monks who are uber-twinked & inthe mega-uber guilds of the servers are going to be hurt by this, potentially bad.

Usually posting under Aelwulf, at work...

But can a player around lvl 39 charm a MoB with 10K HPs?

Again, I am sure VI is going to add better Cleric CH spells for the approriate level.

I think it's real real stupid that they do it. Of course we aren't a tank, I can take about as much damage as a sheet of paper before tearing, but really, with the way a monk gains aggro? At least give me a chance to last a few seconds for a warrior or two to get off a taunt. Fix taunts, then when your sure that they're gonna work if a monk is gonna get a trouble, lower a monk's defense. I don't wanna die because I gain aggro due to the way a monk was meant to operate and then I don't have the damn defense to stay alive. And Wizards? OUCH.
There goes my incentive to level my Wizard past 5, I feel for ya'll :(

From what I read, I agree with the changes, except I don't quite understand why they even bothered calling it "Complete Heal" if it had ANY cap.

Seems to me that "balance" depends on your point of view. Dragon nuking teams of Manaburners probably think this is terribly unfair, as do Monks. Clerics will most likely get a 10k heal at lvl 60+ instead of 39, when it fits into context (that is, when there's likely to be someone of a similar level with that many HPs).

I AM excited about the apparent upcoming nerfs on the MoBs as well, since VI decided that 45mins to hack at a MoB wasn't their idea of "fun". All in all, it looks like Warriors are going to be a bit more valued due to all the changes mentioned here. (No doubt Warriors think this is WONDERFULLY fair).

This may not be popular to say, but I'm going to say it anyway: Even when going through a dungeon, there's a fine line between bored and dead. If you can find the challenge level in between those two, then you are going to have a good time, work as a team, and profit in experience and loot. This is a complex task, finding the right spot, knowing what and how to pull, etc.

Now, multiply that complexity by a factor of a few thousand. VI's job is to try and keep the game in general balanced between boring and frustrating, not just for one kind of player but for all the different classes, levels, races, etc.
Yes, they knew multiple wizards could take down a dragon fast by manaburning, but perhaps they underestimated how often groups of selfish wizards would form the equivalent of motorcycle gangs, holding high powered loot hostage.

If you think about how the game has changed since the days when the max level was 50 and the "end game" was to kill Naggy and Vox, you might imagine that in a game as complex as EQ, that the balance of power between the classes has changed a lot. VI has a very tough job, the game has a HUGE potentional to get unbalanced and all in all VI is doing a great job. So please don't whine if your stragey has to change somewhat.

Now, as for Fungi Tunics and such...I don't know how many times in my high 20's and low 30's I got killed because we had some hot shot Warrior (OR Monk) who confused regeneration with immortality, ignored generally accepted procedure, and got the whole party wiped out by overpulling. Finally, I decided I was NOT going to group with anyone that twinked because they lacked the right skills to play at that level. I don't know if these were players who were used to playing lvl 50+, or if they were eBayers (), but I would NOT group with them. I currently am in a small, close knit guild and am outfitting my alternates as possible. I feel a bit guilty about this, but I am trying to keep it at least resonable.

And all in all, it's a game. Yes, we pour MANY hours of our lives into it, but the only part of it that's real is how we treat each other, work together, and find new (and hopefully FUN) ways to solve challenges.

It's easy to get testy when you've logged 40 hours on EQ over the weekend, but let's try not to take ourselves too seriously.



Edited, Wed Oct 9 17:08:48 2002

Unfortunately, as stated the AC is already different between classes. Such as 1000AC on a wizard is not as protective as 1000AC on a warrior.

It looks like they may reduce some obscure EQ math module numbers and poof: You just get less protection but the AC is the same.

Playing a monk I can see both sides of this. I remember when we really couldn't take much of a hit and we survived. So I will be fine unless they over do the tinkering as they are want to do...

Why in the name of God are you complaining about lowering your ac if you never tank. At 36, you seem very uneducated for your class. I have a monk myself as do a few of my friends. AC will not matter if you do not tank because stuff will not hit you. Quit whining about losing abilities with your monk. You still have mend, which should be fine for healing unless you know absolutely nothing about agro management. You still have fd and you do enough damage that if the tank does back off you can snag agro, run a bit and feign fd, allowing your group to get away. My main is a ranger, and rangers have been nerfed repeatedly. I personally agree with all these "nerfs". They seem to be finally taking a great step into the class balancing they were talking about. If you want to whine so much about it, there is a very simple solution to your problems. Quit playing, delete your account, and quit making my chat window scroll by so quick, I miss what guildies are saying because I really don't want to hear it.

yeah, monks hold so well in a group that with a fungi and some decent(not uber) armor and weapons they can solo better than most classes, and by level 60 you have a class that outdamages everyone, PLUS can tank better than most hybrids and all non uber tanks.

hell, a monk without a fungi can outsolo a magician, and thats just not right.