the loss of the widnower could be very upsetting. As others have mentioned, if SE wants to eliminate all 3rd pty programs, I completely understand. Many of the hack programs are simply absurd, and I watched a couple of demo movies that blew my mind...but i feel the windower falls under a different category.

It's so bloody handy and nice to have FFXI in a window, that even after 2 days of not using it I'm starting to notice a difference. For a game that asks (wait, DEMANDS) a fair bit of OUR time, it's a damn pain in the *** to try and seek party as a Thief (which usually equals 1-2 hours, sometimes more) or wait for a weather change with ONLY the FFXI window on my screen.

SE, Wake up! Not everyone is using these 3rd party programs to hack, cheat, or change the game. In fact, when I heard the new windower displayed TP, HP or whatever it did, I decided against downloading it. I don't want any special features, added cheats, or an unfair advantage at the game...I just dont want to put my entire real life on hold every time I want to earn 10k exp. or a couple hundred thousand gil.

Eliminate the cheats: {yes, please.} take away a 3rd party program that makes the game much more accesible and enjoyable? {no, thanks.}

This update happened in the middle of the night, when a few friends of mine (Including myself) had just popped Dark Spark. We logged back on after getting disconnected, and we found the only person who didn't d/c dead. Our SMN. Poor guy. Screwed by the system. ^^;

ok i thnik what their doing is right, first the rules are clear, no thrid-party sofeware and second everyones been getting mad since april cuz the game is not working right and everytime it's been an attack by a thrid-party program. so stop being a baby and grow up. if they didn't do this everyone would still be getting all mad cuz the game is not letting them in.

The main reason for the update is likely the result of people using third party tools such as bots, FFact, ACtools or waypoint recorders. I'm all for the crackdown on the use of these tools.

However, I would like to see the windower stay. It is such a handy tool for flicking though your mp3 tracks, browsing the internet (nice if you need that all important map or guide to see you through your adventures ^^) or simply chating to some friends while waiting for a party invite.



I disagree with your point, you can hack a program whether it is minimised, maximised or windowed or whatever it doesnt matter. Windower simply makes it easier to tab between running programs.



Nearly there but no cigar. "Fuel Injections"?

Some writers use the term 'Hook' to also mean the program that gets inserted. ie, 'Injection' not 'Fuel Injection'

In programming, a hook is a place and usually an interface provided in packaged code that allows a programmer to insert customized programming. For example, a progammer might want to insert an additional capability into a game to gain an advantage. Hooks can be allocated protected memory space meaning making them harder to detect. The server log would be usless in the case of windower because you arent changing the actual game just the way that you view it and the server thinks its in fullscreen mode anyway. ^^

the July 7th 3:30-4:30am update was for the 2nd patch that occured today. FYI Tomorrow's maintenance time is still yet to be determined.

Since it is a windows only maint, I can only assume it would be about third party software. Personally, I think Windower is what allows all of these "cheats" to happen as it allows people to use other programs (that could be the source of cheating) while they have FFXI up. An FFXI without Windower may be a good thing because of this, however it would not be popular among the majority of players.

they better not **** our windower 3.2!!!

The scheduled time is announced as 7th July 3:30 to 4:30 PDT