On the garuda server. I see many people in the same area for months. They all have practically the same gear. And i've heard from LS members that I think IGE equips their botters with full raptor/lizard. and they are all dragoons. The guy attacks anything and doesn't reply when you speak to him. He pissed me off, so I followed him around and stole his mobs for fun. I wanted to become a threat to IGE for their gil selling. Because the economy is terrible. Also, in beadueax i came a across a PLD named Krice, who is chinese. Ever since that day (1.5 months ago) I see her farming oozes nonstop. And her gear never changed. I suspect that person working for a company as well. I hope SE does something about these losers, I hate them with a passion...

What are you thinking?
Don't address the issue! Just be aware of the problem and monitor it like a hawk. Then ban each and every one of the people that uses it. =)

Addressing the issue just makes them look for a new hole in your programming (and with a game weighing in around 9 gigs now, there's going to be a few).

I have been noticing a lot of talk on our LS lately about the ZOE's (among others). The rumor was that they were selling gil and this gil was flooding the economy. What seemed to be also an issue, is that as the items in the AH become so expensive that normal players can't afford it so they are turning to Gil sellers.

I have never baught gil or manipulated the system but I have had troubles since my first day logging in to be able to afford items (what happened to 100gil potions of the past?) Also, the chocobo prices in Jeuno and at the crags is outragious most of the time, so I spend more time running between cities than fighting and making gil =p kinda circular....

Anyway, so I asked a Zoe, who happened to be a Chinese player who spoke no English (I love dictionaries) what they were really up to. Some of them are actually sold accounts and some of them are selling gil via credit card. So the gil farmers, are usually these characters (who sometimes are botted btw) and yes, they are taking over some areas and camping the best nms. Annyoing huh?

So there, this whole string of posts now interconnects. Personally, I want to see it illegal to sell gil on the server. I would like to see the bots destoryed and I want to know why there are PC's in the game who never move! I've been playing for months and I always see the same people in the same place, having never moved, every day. That's frustraiting.

So here's the basic point. SE is being abused by gil sellers who are also messing up the PC characters. Solution option: Make quests more rewarding so that gil is a little easier to make. This way, players won't need to worry about buying gil and can go back to enjoying their gaming experience. This would solve the issue, the secret is keeping the AH people from raising their prices again? Can we call for a freeze in AH prices? Until this issue is solved? Could be good ^^. Also, these items, like hmmm.... jumping boots, maybe they should have a signature on them? So when you win them legally, your signature is added to them. If someone who doops the item goes to sell it in the AH the AH will reject it. These signatures never go away so you can always tell if the item is legit. No one is going to buy a dooped item if they know they can not sell it again, and who would buy it for the outragious price out of a bazzar?

Just food for thought ^^

They need to add another intentional 'exploit' where you take items from a merchant, synth it, and the result can be sold back for a profit to the merchant.

It would Still require crystals, but geez, would it hurt anyone to have crafting at some point actually make gil ?!?

I mean come on ! this is allowed in real life (called...'manufacturing'). Are the merchants buying all the finished products from outsourced factories run by beastmen ?!?

This is Fantastic!

I heard about this quite some time ago, though I never learned how to do it and quite honestly never really wanted to. I knew eventually SE would catch up w/ people on this.

I agree that exploiting that wasn't a great idea, but what about those people who got banned because they got curious and only did it once? I think they should of gotten their duplicates taken and still allowed on the game. The people who REALLY exploited it for all it was worth should be banned.

P.S.: I didn't do it in case you were wondering. ¬_¬

I've seen and hears a few botting problems on shiva, but nothing too serious... my main complaint is the AH prices... but that's just people's greed. I was starting out and when i hit RDM lv 3 i went to buy cure... i started looking inteh other shops, adn lo and behold i found it for 70 gil, where it was 300 in the AH.

If you want an item that's in teh AH adn you can't afford it, shop around... maybe some NPC has it for sale at a somewhat reasonable price...

The other thing to do is get people on your server to suck in their belts and sell their stuff on the AH for lower prices... if you can get the majority of people selling for like half what the current rates are, the prices will drop. of course, that will that a lot of organization.

Bots can't be helped. if peopel are botting, then aside from telling a GM, there's really nothign you can do about it. I love the game, and i hate to see it got to crap because of the people that want to make real money off of a game. just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should.

anyway, that's my 2 gil... ^_^

Dear SE,
Good job on getting rid of an item duplication glitch and punishing those who exploited it. Now go hunt down and ban every last botter on every server. Nothing says "Don't cheat the systen" like "Create a new character from scratch".
Sincerely,
Westly
Caitsith Server
P.S. I want my goddamn "Scroll: Meteor"

I guess whomever gets mad at this news from SE are the ones doing it.
A normal player has absolutely no reason to be mad by this. I don't do anything illegal, so I know my tail is safe.
I have absolutely no problem with being a whistle blower anyway. Just because you can do something in a game doesn't make it right.

why must ppl cheat anyway?
when you get too far without working for it theres no accomplishment, it makes a game boring.

like rushing in diablo ii, and endless cow runs.
sheesh, way2go :P

Are they talking about those players that set up casino's?

Frankly, i don't think there is really a problem with someone buying something from a guild and selling it back for money. Blame SE if thats the case. Just like in real life, if someone finds something cheaper than they could sell it for, thats okay. I have no idea what this thing adresses but if it has to do with buying and selling according to pre-set prices, it is definitely not the players fault.

I MISSED THIS?! ROAR!

::Duplicates stacks of silk cloth::

BWAHAHAHA! CRAFTING AHOY!

nah i kid....that sucks...kill all the exploiters