I hate reutersFollow
Less news, more entertainment, please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJxCPiChtPI
Kirby the Eccentric wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJxCPiChtPI
I dunno, the stuff he said didn't really seem funny at all
Maybe I am just more sensitive about people joking about stabbing people cause they're gay cause I am big ole ***** - it would be different if he was joking about stereotypes or whatever (like a ***** lisp or something) - I don't get offended by that kind of thing
but when you start talking violence it is different. It isn't funny.
but when you start talking violence it is different. It isn't funny.
This stuff is real:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/4982520/Lesbians-subjected-to-corrective-rape-in-South-Africa.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/04/04/us-iraq-gays-killings-sb-idUSTRE53312Q20090404?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/world/africa/28uganda.html
This is real and happening... not really funny at all in my opinion.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/4982520/Lesbians-subjected-to-corrective-rape-in-South-Africa.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/04/04/us-iraq-gays-killings-sb-idUSTRE53312Q20090404?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/world/africa/28uganda.html
This is real and happening... not really funny at all in my opinion.
But what you or I find funny and not funny shouldn't matter one bit. If you don't like what he may say while doing stand up, don't go see him if he is doing his act at a local club. Even if I found his remarks offensive (I don't), I would chalk it up to Tracy Morgan being Tracy Morgan. He says random, stupid ****, all the time. He's even said worse stuff than that, but I guess he just didn't manage to **** off the wrong group at the time, so nobody cared.
No, there is a difference between making jokes and inciting hatred. I'm sorry it isn't just about taste - it is about the lives and well being of REAL people. People who could be hurt - and I am not talking emotionally - but physically by the kind of hatred he was spreading.
Hate speech isn't okay. I fully agree with shutting it down. I believe free speech is a right until you abuse it - and saying things about stabbing gay people - that crosses the line.
It is not acceptable. Hate speech has real life consequences for vulnerable people and it shouldn't be allowed to go unchallenged.
Hate speech isn't okay. I fully agree with shutting it down. I believe free speech is a right until you abuse it - and saying things about stabbing gay people - that crosses the line.
It is not acceptable. Hate speech has real life consequences for vulnerable people and it shouldn't be allowed to go unchallenged.
Something said in humor, and it was, regardless of how horrible it sounds, isn't hate speech. But even if it were, I'm fully in support of all free speech; the good, the bad, and the ugly (obv. I don't agree someone should be able to yell 'FIRE!' in a theater, or direct threats [that are legitimate threats], or earnestly trying to incite violence or some other serious crime). I hate making a slippery slope argument, but once you start setting limits on what people can say, you open the flood gates.
I think it is reasonable to expect people not to talk about how it is okay to stab gay people, and I don't think it was a joke. We can agree to disagree on this one - but if you had, as I have, experienced real, violent, and scary discrimination in your life first hand, you wouldn't think it was a "joke" either.
That is absolutely fair enough.
On a semi-related note, there were some people from a local gay organization collecting signatures for some petition today, and for some reason, the guy that I walked about 15 yards away from for about half a mile didn't bother to turn around and ask me to sign. I mean, I didn't engage him, either, but I'm not the one looking to get a petition filled.
Does a shaved head and a German Shepard give off some big anti-gay vibe?
Does a shaved head and a German Shepard give off some big anti-gay vibe?
I think it was the swastika earrings that gave you away.
Spoonless wrote:
I think it was the swastika earrings that gave you away.
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