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#1 Feb 06 2011 at 10:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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I played for someone else (who didn't bother to show up at all, after saying he'd be over here about 2hrs after our scheduled time).

I rolled such awesome Attack/Damage rolls.. when I normally roll crap for my own character. As a result, I dealt the most damage to the Iron Golems we ran into in this dungeon.

After collecting a Prince of Rogues tome, we left the dungeon, and headed out to slay a dragon (after meeting my new character).

The dragon happened to be a Black Dragon.. and my new character happened to be wearing Black Dragonscale armor..
And for some reason, the dragon targeted me the whole fight :D

As soon as I took my first swing at it (With my Keen, basically-a-lightsaber Katana), One our our party members punched me in the back, since he happened to be worshiping Evil dragons.

Needless to say, he was quickly taken care of, and we moved onto killing the dragon. It was kinda weak IMO, but it was fun anyway.


I can't wait to use my character more next Sunday :D

Edited, Feb 6th 2011 9:17pm by Kirby
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#2 Feb 06 2011 at 11:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've never played D&D.
#3 Feb 06 2011 at 11:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Neither have I.
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#4 Feb 07 2011 at 1:26 AM Rating: Good
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What kind of character did you roll, and what version are you playing?

Also 4e is better.
#5 Feb 07 2011 at 1:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Level 5 Feral Goliath Warblade.

We're playing 3.5 until another friend has his campaign ready, then we'll be playing 3.7

From what I've heard of 4.0, it just seems silly.
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#6 Feb 07 2011 at 1:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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The real important question is:

Who did Masa San kiss? Smiley: wink
#7 Feb 07 2011 at 2:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hasn't happened yet. Manosuke's gonna arrange something later, I think.
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#8 Feb 07 2011 at 2:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kirby wrote:
Manosuke's gonna arrange something later, I think.
He better, or I'll send him angry messages on the PS3.
#9 Feb 07 2011 at 2:41 AM Rating: Good
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Kirby wrote:
From what I've heard of 4.0, it just seems silly.

I'm not sure what you've heard.
#10 Feb 07 2011 at 2:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Allegory wrote:
Kirby wrote:
From what I've heard of 4.0, it just seems silly.

I'm not sure what you've heard.
I think he's heard that 4.0 is silly.
#11 Feb 07 2011 at 3:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Allegory wrote:
Kirby wrote:
From what I've heard of 4.0, it just seems silly.

I'm not sure what you've heard.
That your characters don't need to rest; all classes are very similar, if not homogeneous; Skills were basically removed, you just get a flat increase to all checks.

I dunno, lots of things that were just fine in 3.5/3.7. Some things just make the game simplified, and in some cases, that might be an improvement, but I don't think it is for D&D.
In other ways, it seems like 4.0 allows for more freedom in Roleplay which I like.

But I mean, if we wanted more freedom in roleplay, we could just tweak 3.0/3.5 a little.


But yeah, my room mates want to stay as far away as possible from 4.0.
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#12 Feb 07 2011 at 9:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Kirby wrote:
That your characters don't need to rest

This is wrong. Whoever told you this has no idea what they are saying. Aside from narrative, you are mechanically forced to rest after so long because you need to recover abilities and healing surges. Running around with a character that never sleeps in 4e is like a 3.5 Wizard who never sleeps, in that he never prepares more spells.
Kirby wrote:
all classes are very similar, if not homogeneous

The classes were balanced. They are similar in that now a fighter or non-caster has access to the same variety of options in combat as a mage (he can maybe use a special technique to sever an enemy's tendon and slow it down, or he can bash them upside the head to send them into a daze, etc.). In 3.5 casters get to think and non-casters get to auto-attack, over and over again. In 4e you also mattter if you're a non-caster. In 3.5, by about level 10, no one but the wizard in your party really matters.
Kirby wrote:
Skills were basically removed, you just get a flat increase to all checks.

This is wrong. Whoever told you this has no idea what they are saying.



What I've noticed is that there are a lot of people who staunchly prefer 3.5, but don't really know anything about 4.0. I honestly think they prefer 3.5 because that's pretty much what they are using to playing and that anything different scares them. They dislike 4e out of bias, because it is different. It is also much, much better.
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But I mean, if we wanted more freedom in roleplay, we could just tweak 3.0/3.5 a little.

Roleplay the same quality regardless of the game, that's more dependent on the participants. What makes 4e better is that combat is vastly more interesting and balanced. If you want to play "let's make believe!" and that's all you care about, then 3.5 is fine. If you want to roleplay and play a combat simulator, then 4e is the only option D&D offers.

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 9:06am by Allegory
#13 Feb 07 2011 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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I've always wanted to get into D&D, anywhere I should start at for knowledge besides just a google search for D&D
#14 Feb 07 2011 at 11:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've always wanted to get into D&D, anywhere I should start at for knowledge besides just a google search for D&D
Read the Player's Manual. You can find a PDF of it online somewhere (probably through a torrent). As for finding people to play with, the best option would be to try to get some friends together for it, but if all else fails just find a gaming store in your town and ask around.
#15 Feb 07 2011 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
klownzor wrote:
I've always wanted to get into D&D, anywhere I should start at for knowledge besides just a google search for D&D
Read the Player's Manual. You can find a PDF of it online somewhere (probably through a torrent). As for finding people to play with, the best option would be to try to get some friends together for it, but if all else fails just find a gaming store in your town and ask around.


Good to know, thanks!
#16 Feb 07 2011 at 1:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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klownzor wrote:
I've always wanted to get into D&D, anywhere I should start at for knowledge besides just a google search for D&D
Read the Player's Manual. You can find a PDF of it online somewhere (probably through a torrent). As for finding people to play with, the best option would be to try to get some friends together for it, but if all else fails just find a gaming store in your town and ask around.
Good to know, thanks!
Keep in mind that this is just for basic information for when you're starting out. There are a lot of rules and resources out there, but that will be good for getting you started. The best thing you can do to learn is play a game with people who know what they are doing, willing to teach you, and patient.
#17 Feb 07 2011 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Player%27s_Handbook_%284e%29

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 1:50pm by Vataro
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#18 Feb 07 2011 at 3:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Allegory, I'll get Manosuke to post in here about 4.0

I was just going off of reviews, on the major differences between 3.5 and 4.0
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#19 Feb 07 2011 at 5:04 PM Rating: Good
Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
klownzor wrote:
I've always wanted to get into D&D, anywhere I should start at for knowledge besides just a google search for D&D
Read the Player's Manual. You can find a PDF of it online somewhere (probably through a torrent). As for finding people to play with, the best option would be to try to get some friends together for it, but if all else fails just find a gaming store in your town and ask around.
Why the **** isn't this done over the internet yet? No, I don't mean DDO.
#20 Feb 07 2011 at 5:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
klownzor wrote:
I've always wanted to get into D&D, anywhere I should start at for knowledge besides just a google search for D&D
Read the Player's Manual. You can find a PDF of it online somewhere (probably through a torrent). As for finding people to play with, the best option would be to try to get some friends together for it, but if all else fails just find a gaming store in your town and ask around.
Why the @#%^ isn't this done over the internet yet? No, I don't mean DDO.
You make a good point, and maybe it already is done online somewhere, but I think for a lot of people (including myself), a big part of the fun of the experience is through getting together with friends, and actually sitting down together to do it. There's just something satisfying about being able to roll the dice yourself rather than clicking a button for them.
#21 Feb 07 2011 at 5:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lubriderm the Fussy wrote:
Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
klownzor wrote:
I've always wanted to get into D&D, anywhere I should start at for knowledge besides just a google search for D&D
Read the Player's Manual. You can find a PDF of it online somewhere (probably through a torrent). As for finding people to play with, the best option would be to try to get some friends together for it, but if all else fails just find a gaming store in your town and ask around.
Why the @#%^ isn't this done over the internet yet? No, I don't mean DDO.


See my post in the other thread. The Character Builder is a good way to build a character through a fairly automated process. As for actually playing D&D online, Maptool is the best tool out there I think, though it certainly has its flaws.
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klownzor wrote:
I've always wanted to get into D&D, anywhere I should start at for knowledge besides just a google search for D&D

The first thing a player needs is a Player's Handbook as Daimakaicho said. This book will explain to you all the fundamental rules about how to play as a player as well as give you tools to make your first character (such as classes, races, items, etc).

Even before that though, you need to settle on a version of D&D to play. The most popular ones at the moment are 3.5 and 4.0. 4.0 is the currently supported version, while 3.5 is the previous version that many players have chosen to stick with because for whatever reason they didn't like the change. As someone totally new to D&D, I would recommend 4.0 over 3.5, not just because I personally like 4.0 more but because I feel 4.0 is much easier to learn. 4.0 is like Spanish in that there is a structure and pattern throughout it that helps you pick up on things faster. 3.5 is more like English, in that it is a mess of different ideas thrown together.
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Why the @#%^ isn't this done over the internet yet? No, I don't mean DDO.

It is. Maptool is one of the best tools I've found for playing it online. I've played numerous campaigns both online and offline, and I actually prefer a lot fo the convenience and improvements by playing via maptool. I know a lot of people who use maptool for their campaigns even though they play in person, just because it can improve the experience greatly.

Playing D&D online requires additional learning and preparation, which can be a lot for a new player to take in. In addition to all the normal stuff you have to learn and do for D&D, to play with maptool optimally you would want a voice chat program as well (I use skype), you might need a virtual network like hamachi, you need to know how to set up characters in maptool, you need to know how to use macros in maptool, you need to prepare maps and enemies largely in advance, and more.
#23 Feb 07 2011 at 5:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, like everyone else has said, I'd start out learning D&D from other plays in RL first.

We got someone to join our campaign, who had never played before, and it took him about 3 play sessions to fully grasp the fundamentals.
The rest of the little things, the nuances, can be picked up as you go along.

Allegory, do you know of a PDF or similar that I could take a look at for 4.0?
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#24 Feb 07 2011 at 5:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Allegory, do you know of a PDF or similar that I could take a look at for 4.0?

I have practically everything for 4.0 in PDF form. Much of it is already on a friend's megauploads account, but I forgot his password. I'll try searching for it for a bit, and if not I'll throw up a new megaupload link for you.
#25 Feb 07 2011 at 5:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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That would be awesome. No rush on it, though.
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#26 Feb 07 2011 at 6:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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4.0 PHB1

I've got a lot of other stuff up there, but I'm lazy so I'll probably only link it on request.
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