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#1 Feb 03 2011 at 11:45 AM Rating: Excellent
I was getting lots of entertainment from it. (I also had no idea so many people hated catwho.) Also, it entertains me that everybody bashing Rog was getting rated down and everyone praising him was getting rated up.
#2 Feb 03 2011 at 12:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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ZAM drama is almost on par with that of junior high students.
Mmm junior high students...
#3 Feb 03 2011 at 2:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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I really don't like the fact that Rog got banned. It is what it is, though.
#4 Feb 03 2011 at 3:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Exodus wrote:
I really don't like the fact that Rog got banned. It is what it is, though.
I don't like it, but that's what happens when Kao gives you a final warning and you go break the rules again.
#5 Feb 03 2011 at 3:08 PM Rating: Excellent
They really should have a ban/mute option that just bars from posting in certain forums. That way you could keep rog out of =10 (where I honestly don't think he was a problem) without pissing off all of his friends, many of who are long time posters and/or premium. To be honest, I don't know what his specific warning was, I just thought he was told not to harass new people.

Daim, which thread are you talking about, btw?
#6 Feb 03 2011 at 3:08 PM Rating: Excellent
Spoonless the Silent wrote:
Sir Exodus wrote:
I really don't like the fact that Rog got banned. It is what it is, though.
I don't like it, but that's what happens when Kao gives you a final warning and you go break the rules again.
Yeah, it really sucks, but we can't say Rog didn't do it to himself. Smiley: oyvey
#7 Feb 03 2011 at 3:11 PM Rating: Excellent
Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
Spoonless the Silent wrote:
Sir Exodus wrote:
I really don't like the fact that Rog got banned. It is what it is, though.
I don't like it, but that's what happens when Kao gives you a final warning and you go break the rules again.
Yeah, it really sucks, but we can't say Rog didn't do it to himself. Smiley: oyvey
We kinda can, at least considering how often people baited him, including certain admins. I'm not saying he's not without fault, but with all the circumstances considered, this should be a 2 week mute, maximum.
#8 Feb 03 2011 at 3:14 PM Rating: Excellent
Lubriderm the Fussy wrote:
Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
Spoonless the Silent wrote:
Sir Exodus wrote:
I really don't like the fact that Rog got banned. It is what it is, though.
I don't like it, but that's what happens when Kao gives you a final warning and you go break the rules again.
Yeah, it really sucks, but we can't say Rog didn't do it to himself. Smiley: oyvey
We kinda can, at least considering how often people baited him, including certain admins. I'm not saying he's not without fault, but with all the circumstances considered, this should be a 2 week mute, maximum.
That's fair. I don't remember all the particulars of that thread, and the blame definitely does not fall completely on Rog, but at the same time, when you are given an ultimatum, you have to be able to have the self control to not break that ultimatum. Whether he was instigated or not, it was ultimately Rog's decision to break the rules again. I don't like that Rog is gone either, and I disagree with the ban, but all I'm saying is that Rog has to deal with the consequences of his actions.
#9 Feb 03 2011 at 3:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lubriderm the Fussy wrote:
Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
Spoonless the Silent wrote:
Sir Exodus wrote:
I really don't like the fact that Rog got banned. It is what it is, though.
I don't like it, but that's what happens when Kao gives you a final warning and you go break the rules again.
Yeah, it really sucks, but we can't say Rog didn't do it to himself. Smiley: oyvey
We kinda can, at least considering how often people baited him, including certain admins. I'm not saying he's not without fault, but with all the circumstances considered, this should be a 2 week mute, maximum.
Two weeks from all of Zam, maybe, but I can agree with a perma-mute in =10. As for people baiting him, he could have just not responded, and reported them. Maybe then they would have so many reports on their records that they would be forced to be banned.
#10 Feb 03 2011 at 3:18 PM Rating: Good
Ultimatums are often 'loosened' when there are mitigating circumstances.
#11 Feb 03 2011 at 3:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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With the number of warnings he had, I don't see much wiggle room left.

I like rog. I think it sucks that he got banned. It's really hard to make a case against it, though, given his history.
#12 Feb 03 2011 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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Lubriderm the Fussy wrote:
Ultimatums are often 'loosened' when there are mitigating circumstances.


They just weren't that mitigating, though.
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#13 Feb 03 2011 at 4:01 PM Rating: Good
Well, fuck all of you. I'll stand by my friends when there is a shadow of a doubt that they weren't totally in the wrong. There is that shadow in this case. Vat, you get a free pass, since you just came here to +1, but the rest of you, IMO, should be ashamed.
#14 Feb 03 2011 at 7:56 PM Rating: Excellent
so =10 is still all Jr. High mode?

Only zam part were you can give great awesome info and get Sub-D, or be a total **** and get Guru.

Sucks about Rog. Maybe you can all rally together and get him back! It kinda worked for Hellboy Smiley: lol
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#15 Feb 03 2011 at 7:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Until he got himself banned, again. lol.
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#16 Feb 03 2011 at 8:13 PM Rating: Excellent
Kirby, Star Breaker wrote:
Until he got himself banned, again. lol.


wait, HB got banned again? I thought he just got a job finally that stopped him from coming to the site as much.
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#17 Feb 03 2011 at 8:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm pretty sure he was given his last chance, and Kao banned him for real.
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#18 Feb 03 2011 at 8:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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I dunno. I've seen his admin notes. They almost rivaled mine in length (probably longer by now :P). And he definitely had more reprimands. If anything could be said in his defense, it's that there WERE so many notes saying, "IF HE DOES THIS ONE MORE TIME..." and then he did, and there wasn't any follow-through beyond another short mute. I remember in IRC there was a lot of "GOD I WISH HE'D STOP. I'M GONNA MUTE HIM FOREVER THE NEXT TIME HE DOES THAT!" He really is good at getting under people's skin. Smiley: lol

Yeah, other people get away with being jack asses and no one says or does anything. That's the user base's fault just as much as it is the admins' uneven enforcement of the rules. I know when I was an admin, I hated moderating the forums. I got so sick and tired of reading report tickets about "HE CALLED ME A DUMB FACE" and "WAH WAH I'M GONNA GO HOME AND CRY MYSELF TO SLEEP" I'd want to find the person responsible for that and make them stop too. It's easier than trying to explain to a bunch of whiny cry babies to get a thicker skin.

I forgot my point, maybe there wasn't one. Smiley: lol
#19 Feb 03 2011 at 8:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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I forgot my point, maybe there wasn't one. Smiley: lol


I think you said "welcome to the interwebz!"
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#20 Feb 03 2011 at 8:23 PM Rating: Excellent
and is Rog banned or just muted? cuz uh..don't I see him up in the visitors?
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#21 Feb 03 2011 at 8:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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[7:28:36 PM] Roger: Tell sand that a mute simply prevents someone from posting, pming, rating posts (uncluding nuke/unnuke, but not including (un)lock, or sticky), and uploading images, and that's it. I can still log in, change my avatar, sig, etc,\. A ban is the same thing, except it also nukes all posts.
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#22 Feb 03 2011 at 8:59 PM Rating: Excellent
so..you can change your avatar? We could talk in codes!? You just change your avatar to say something Smiley: sly
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#23 Feb 03 2011 at 9:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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[8:01:12 PM] Roger: lolsand. I could, but i can't upload new images, so that would be rather limited. However, i can edit my sig all want.

[8:01:54 PM] Roger: in fact, i even tried doing just that last time i was banned, but no one seemed to notice.

Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 8:02pm by Kirby
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#24 Feb 03 2011 at 9:03 PM Rating: Excellent
Kirby wrote:
[8:01:12 PM] Roger: lolsand. I could, but i can't upload new images, so that would be rather limited. However, i can edit my sig all want.

[8:01:54 PM] Roger: in fact, i even tried doing just that last time i was banned, but no one seemed to notice.


awesome.
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#25 Feb 03 2011 at 9:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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change your sig to a link to something dreadful.
Make it 2 girls 1 cup bad.
#26 Feb 03 2011 at 9:09 PM Rating: Excellent
That would be cool. Wouldn't help him in the end.
But who cares right?
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