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I was looking for a 2nd profession for my shaman and cant decide between the two, any suggestions?
If you raid, or do significant PVE. The Enchanting perks of damage on rings, or whatever you're doing is the best dps/healing boost. It's even better than Engineering head gear as long as you have a headgear at the same item level.
If you're looking for a second profession then the question is, what's your first profession?
JC requires mining to get the ore and gems for skilling up so unless you've got another toon that can mine for you then it'll be rather costly skilling JC off of the AH.
Enchanting doesn't require a gathering profession so would work with your other skill, however, that other skill probably requires a gathering profession unless its tailoring (and tailoring on a chain wearing class isn't all that practical).
All said we need more info.
JC requires mining to get the ore and gems for skilling up so unless you've got another toon that can mine for you then it'll be rather costly skilling JC off of the AH.
Enchanting doesn't require a gathering profession so would work with your other skill, however, that other skill probably requires a gathering profession unless its tailoring (and tailoring on a chain wearing class isn't all that practical).
All said we need more info.
ShadowBreakerKnight wrote:
any suggestions?
I won't make any suggestions, since you will be the one making the decision. Have you read what the FAQ has to say on each of them? If you haven't yet, then do so. Not only that, but try to look up some profession leveling guides (using Google) and do a little research. Knowing what you are getting into will solidify your decision.
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/agree with rus.
I can tell you a few perks as im an enchanter.
perk#1 big $$$ you won't make very much money doing enchants for ppl, but selling disenchanted mats will make you rich.
#2 The ring enchants, and of course being able to enchant your gear yourself.
Cons would be its very expensive and time consuming to lvl and the better enchants like mongoose and such are hard to get. the hard to get ones that aren't Bop will cost you a fourtune.
I have always been envious of JC, just because enchanting doesn't really allow you to create things you can use like JC's very usefull trinkets.
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I can tell you a few perks as im an enchanter.
perk#1 big $$$ you won't make very much money doing enchants for ppl, but selling disenchanted mats will make you rich.
#2 The ring enchants, and of course being able to enchant your gear yourself.
Cons would be its very expensive and time consuming to lvl and the better enchants like mongoose and such are hard to get. the hard to get ones that aren't Bop will cost you a fourtune.
I have always been envious of JC, just because enchanting doesn't really allow you to create things you can use like JC's very usefull trinkets.
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Enchanting and Jewelcrafting are two of the few professions that can actually MAKE you money while leveling them up. Jewelcrafting can make you money if you supply your own ore and bars, enchanting can just flat make you money period.
soggymaster wrote:
Enchanting and Jewelcrafting are two of the few professions that can actually MAKE you money while leveling them up. Jewelcrafting can make you money if you supply your own ore and bars, enchanting can just flat make you money period.
*Eyetwitch*
Keep in mind that while it will "make you money," you will be netting a loss. You will not be profitting. You would make more by selling the materials. To make you a profit, jewelcrafting would have to make you money even if you bought all the materials on the AH.
Just wanted to be clear :-P
That being said, jewelcrafting seems to be worthwhile for the prospecting skill to make some money for little effort... but I heard that months and months ago, so I don't know if it still holds true. Enchanting is always good for breaking even, because you just need to use enchantrix/auctioneer to buy a bunch of BoEs off the AH, disenchant them and sell back however much it took to buy them in the first place, and use the rest to level. Technically it's farming.
If it's one or the other, I'd go with Enchanting. I've made tens of thousands of gold off of enchanting, and I suck at playing the AH. Plus with enchanting you can take another profession too (ie, tailoring if you're a cloth-wearer, or a gathering profession otherwise). And while jewelcrafting has some great BoP jewels, I'd rather have the spiffy ring enchants from enchanting. Of course, the optimal course is to have both, but that's quite expensive :)
Both professions are also pretty useful if you have a couple alts.
My bank alt is a level 300 enchanter. So, on both of the alts I've leveled to 70, I have been able to do cheap enchants on most gear they get as they level. It's also nice to have a place for all three of my 70s to send greens/blues to DE (or sell). I hardly ever farm the AH anymore, just because I usually end up with multiple greens a day going to my bank alt for DE anyway...and I don't really need the income as much now because of the dailies.
One of my 70s is a miner/JC. This has also been very helpful with alts. I picked up a couple really nice enchants (like the 8 Agi for example) and can easily support my other toons' gem needs. I'll sell some on occasion, but it's not a major focus.
Both professions can also be very beneficial to a guild, if that's of interest. My enchanter isn't high enough, but if you accumulate some of the BoP enchants in Outland, it can be of great benefit to your guild. People don't have to search for someone with the enchant and they don't have to pay huge tips on the harder to find enchants. Same with JC. I'll cut anything that anyone wants, preferably with their gem. But, it saves people a lot of money, especially if they want the epic cuts.
So, it really kind of depends what you want out of the profession. Both can be costly to level. Both have real up sides. Biggest thing, I'd say, is don't go JC unless you are a miner, or have a miner to supply you.
My bank alt is a level 300 enchanter. So, on both of the alts I've leveled to 70, I have been able to do cheap enchants on most gear they get as they level. It's also nice to have a place for all three of my 70s to send greens/blues to DE (or sell). I hardly ever farm the AH anymore, just because I usually end up with multiple greens a day going to my bank alt for DE anyway...and I don't really need the income as much now because of the dailies.
One of my 70s is a miner/JC. This has also been very helpful with alts. I picked up a couple really nice enchants (like the 8 Agi for example) and can easily support my other toons' gem needs. I'll sell some on occasion, but it's not a major focus.
Both professions can also be very beneficial to a guild, if that's of interest. My enchanter isn't high enough, but if you accumulate some of the BoP enchants in Outland, it can be of great benefit to your guild. People don't have to search for someone with the enchant and they don't have to pay huge tips on the harder to find enchants. Same with JC. I'll cut anything that anyone wants, preferably with their gem. But, it saves people a lot of money, especially if they want the epic cuts.
So, it really kind of depends what you want out of the profession. Both can be costly to level. Both have real up sides. Biggest thing, I'd say, is don't go JC unless you are a miner, or have a miner to supply you.
I'm sure it's server/AH dependent, but on my server you can get away without having a miner for your Jewel Crafter and still make a hefty amount of profit.
Having a working knowlege of the AH is key. Know your popular rare cuts. Know your popular uncommon cuts. Don't be afraid to keep rolling profits into popular cuts you don't have.
Buy ore when it's priced low, prospect, look for under represented & popular cuts on the AH, cut and sell.
If ore is temporarily priced high or you want to increase your exposure, also buy gems when they are priced low, look for under represented & popular cuts on the AH, cut and sell.
My level 63 toon is a 368 Engineer/375 JC. I do not have a miner on any of my alts. I did have to bank roll him to skill up and get a few popular pvp cuts to start, but he soon reached critical mass and is now a money making machine. Once he levels and gets some Consortium rep for meta gems, his earning power will go up even more.
He definitely makes more money than my disenchanter (another server dependent issue). The margins between cheap greens and DE mats are very slim on my server. And there is a lot of DE competition on the AH. Both which mean it's harder to turn a profit on DE'ing.
Of course, I prefer enchanting. Ring enchants are too juicy to pass up. Enchanting my own gear is nice too. DE'ing soulbound gear is great. DE'ing all the crap BOE gear from my alts is nicer. And if I can really creat enhcanting scrolls in WOTLK that I can mail to my alts or list on the AH, I'll be happier than a pig in ****.
Having a working knowlege of the AH is key. Know your popular rare cuts. Know your popular uncommon cuts. Don't be afraid to keep rolling profits into popular cuts you don't have.
Buy ore when it's priced low, prospect, look for under represented & popular cuts on the AH, cut and sell.
If ore is temporarily priced high or you want to increase your exposure, also buy gems when they are priced low, look for under represented & popular cuts on the AH, cut and sell.
My level 63 toon is a 368 Engineer/375 JC. I do not have a miner on any of my alts. I did have to bank roll him to skill up and get a few popular pvp cuts to start, but he soon reached critical mass and is now a money making machine. Once he levels and gets some Consortium rep for meta gems, his earning power will go up even more.
He definitely makes more money than my disenchanter (another server dependent issue). The margins between cheap greens and DE mats are very slim on my server. And there is a lot of DE competition on the AH. Both which mean it's harder to turn a profit on DE'ing.
Of course, I prefer enchanting. Ring enchants are too juicy to pass up. Enchanting my own gear is nice too. DE'ing soulbound gear is great. DE'ing all the crap BOE gear from my alts is nicer. And if I can really creat enhcanting scrolls in WOTLK that I can mail to my alts or list on the AH, I'll be happier than a pig in ****.
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