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#1 Jul 29 2008 at 12:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I will start by saying how sorry I am because I know this has been covered however I can not find the thread.

I have made over 600 pots. Mostly Fel Mana, Mad Alchemist, Major Agility. Not one discovery. Am I unlucky of doing something wrong. I do not have a specialty and I am usually making them at the bank.

Thanks in advance, My guildies want flasks soon 8P
#2 Jul 29 2008 at 12:37 AM Rating: Good
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I do not have a specialty


there's your problem, if your guild wants flasks, then you need to be either potion spec'd or elixir spec'd. Have heard that you'll have better chance with elixir spec'd but it's a tough to get there since you have to get some items that drop off the elite guys whose name eludes me in black morass instance. From what I've read and heard, it takes quite a few runs to get the 5 items, i think that you need to complete the elixir quest
#3 Jul 29 2008 at 5:19 AM Rating: Good
Not sure about how it works with Discoveries. Ive only learned 1 flask before my Elixir Specialty. Dropped it not too long ago and discovered a xmute. Im not sure how the discovery works because i havent had much luck in discovering things either even though i make alot of pots and elixirs everyday. But to get the masters quests view these:
Master of Elixirs
Master of Potions
Master of Transmutation

And to get an idea of how many of what to make in order to discover your own flasks. View this Flask List. Its different for every1 and also depends on skill level. Good Luck!
#4 Jul 29 2008 at 5:24 AM Rating: Excellent
No. A specialty is NOT needed. I had my first discovery before I finished my Potions Mastery quest.

They're quite random. You can make one potion/elixir/transmute and get a discovery, or it could take 1,000 of them. I've been maxed out with alchemy and have only ever had 4 discoveries ever.

Like I said, it's a random thing.
#5 Jul 29 2008 at 7:04 AM Rating: Good
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discoveries are random.
you just have been unlucky.
it doesn’t matter where you make the pot/elixirs, you have the same chance, if you’re in the bank, in town or where ever.
if you X-mute every day, you will eventually discover a new X-mute.
the more pots/elixirs you make the better chance you have to discover something.

I am elixir spec, and I have proced extra's on my flasks before :)

one thing to note about specialty’s. you only have to do one quest once. I wanted to be Elixir spec, but my Hunter Alcimist is perma parked in IF. he doesn’t run dungeons anymore, so, I had to turn in the 4 primal might’s to get X-mute spec. then I paid the fee to drop that, and was instantly able to become Elixir spec W/O doing the Elixir quest, because I had done the X-mute quest already.
#6 Jul 29 2008 at 8:43 AM Rating: Default
If you want to become a flask machine then you definately need elixer spec. Maybe I was lucky or maybe other people have been unlucky but the quest to get the spec isn't all that bad - it only took two runs to get all the drops in BM and the reality is that it was more like 1.25 as I was done before the first real boss spawned.

I hate to sound stupid-sticious, but the only thing I've ever made a discovery off of is super mana pots.

My hunter goes through mad alchy and agi pots like a mage through summoned water and I've never gotten a single discovery off of making them or any other pot.

On the other hand, I've scored three discovered flasks from just banging out 20 mana pots whenever I had an over abundance of mats to make 'em.

I've also discovered a boat load of Xmute recipes just by doing my primal earth to water Xmute every day (you need exalted with Spor to get that recipe but as a herbalist that grind is quite easy and profitable).
#7 Jul 29 2008 at 10:17 AM Rating: Good
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I do not have a specialty


there's your problem, if your guild wants flasks, then you need to be either potion spec'd or elixir spec'd. Have heard that you'll have better chance with elixir spec'd but it's a tough to get there since you have to get some items that drop off the elite guys whose name eludes me in black morass instance. From what I've read and heard, it takes quite a few runs to get the 5 items, i think that you need to complete the elixir quest


I do not have a specialty yet, and likely never will... Never play on my alchemist to get into groups... I have had 3 discoveries in 5 days. I have mostly gotten them off of transmute primal earth to primal water spell. At 375 it is green.

I have gotten one off of an adepts elixer once. Its all a matter of luck, and it appears you luck is not good at this point. :) I hope it turns around for you!
#8 Jul 29 2008 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
Getting a specialty isn't all that hard -

Elixers - http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=10902 - the only issue is getting into Black Morass - my personal XP is that it took two runs, otherwise, cheap and easy.

Transmutation - http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=10899 - just need 4 Primal Might - easy as pie, albeit, slightly costly.

Potions - http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=10897 - also easy - just gotta hit Botanica once.

As noted, you can change your specialization, if memory serves, its the same as changing tailoring spec, ie/150g.

So if you lack the inclination to do instances and/or lack friends/guild then worst case scenario, you do the dailies for a few days or just toss a bunch of herbs onto the AH and just buy your way to your specialization.
#9 Jul 29 2008 at 9:37 PM Rating: Decent
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OK, Ya I have just been lazy in obtaining my mastery. Limited on game time right now so I can barely farm my raid mats before our weekend riads (think I need to call in sick more often...LOL)

Well thank you all very much, I just needed some confirmation on this because it is driving me nuts.

Strike First Strike Hard.
#10 Aug 06 2008 at 12:05 AM Rating: Good
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I got a discovery every 400 or so potions that I did. I did a few thousand Super Mana potions over the course of a few months. 400 or so seems to be about the average for me. What the real math is, I don't know. Nor do I have enough data to say for sure that its 400 potions.

Keep going, you'll get one sooner or later.
#11 Aug 12 2008 at 4:17 AM Rating: Default
just to let you in on some help to better your chances on learning a new flask or transmute is simple. When you go to make pots,elixirs, and flasks is to SAVE you mats til you get enough to make about 100 of each and normaly try to make the same one til you run outta mats. I have every flask in game and the way i done it was kept tryin different things and found a pattern that the more of a single elixir/pot you make the better the chances were.. infact i made 150 agility elixirs and found the assualt flask.. made about 100 fortitude elixirs and found the fort flask.. most of the learnable are also tied into the elixirs and pots that can relate to them i found out as well.. perfect example is the chauldrons is in order to learn them you gotta make the major protection pots of the same type and once i figured that much out i tried to apply the same principle on the flask's and it worked.. so if your wanting to learn the new flasks try saving up tons of mats and make a constant and all at the SAME TIME the single elixirs/pots and you should have better luck
#12 Aug 12 2008 at 8:44 AM Rating: Default
The cauldrons seem to be the only discoveries tied to specific pots and from what I've heard, it only takes a stack or so of combines to get the cauldron in question.
#13 Aug 22 2008 at 5:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Just to add something that wasn't mentioned above. You will only get discoveries when you make stuff from TBC. Meaning, if you make a potion (or something else) that is a recipe from before TBC, you wont get a chance on discovery. It has to be a recipe you learned in TBC.
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