What should I tip?Follow

When I was about level 40, I got a firey weapon enchant on two weapons using my mats. A level 70 enchanter with 375 skill was nice enough to come from wherever he/she was to IF to do the enchant for me. The mats cost me about 50g in total, so I tipped 5G (10% of my mats cost). The enchanter informed me that my tip WAS TOO GENEROUS! I told the enchanter that I thought 5G was actually a pretty small tip for coming to me and performing this service...

I think it also varies somewhat from server to server... I am on a VERY high pop server with quite a few enchanters on trade channel saying "level 375 enchanter/enchantrix LFW" so I assume this is driving the tip amounts lower since the services seem to be so readily available...

I also had an enchanter looking for a Truesilver Rod on trade chat one day... As a BS, I had made one for fun and kept it in my pack, so I whispered him and sold it to him for the cost of my mats with no up-charge. It may not have made me a profit, but it made me popular with an enchanter, so he will probably be more inclined to help me in the future.

I don't get offended if someone asks me to BS something for them using their mats and only tips a gold or two.. If someone is looking for a BS to make something and I am busy getting ready to quest or do an instance or something, I just don't answer the Trade Chat query. If I am sitting in a city and going to the Bank/AH or whatever and have no particular plans, I answer, make what they want, and take whatever tip they are willing to give me.

I definitely agree with this. WOW is a lot better for the crafter in all of us. I know in FFXI I spent a fortune in bonecrafting. At least in WOW a synth is guaranteed. FFXI you have the an ability to fail and lose mats. Which causes a major problem when some of the items take endless amount of time trying to get the drop in BCNM's or buying it for 4 mil gil of the AH.


Edit: 4 million is a rough estimate I don't remember how much venomous claw was, I haven't played in a while.

There shouldn't be any such animal as a poor lvl 70. Making money is so easy. There is NO reason to be poor in this game. None. Zip. Nada.

Being poor is a choice. If you coose to be poor, then it's your choice. It has nothing to do with your professions, skills, etc... The money is available, and you just choose to not take it. So if you're poor, stop complaining. The only reason you are poor is YOU.

And I say all that with love :)

I wasn't thinking of a level 70. There are so many money-making options at 70, that disenchanting becomes an afterthought. I've had rich Level 11's, 20's, 40's and 50's from disenchanting. There is no reason for an enchanter to be poor at any level, not just 70.

I guess that there are two types of enchanters, those that get rich and don't need tips, and those that exist to be taken advantage of by players that purport to adhere to "fair market value". The latter type are also the ones that complain that: 1) they cannot make money from the profession; 2) the profession is too expensive to level; and 3) ask whether they should drop enchanting for a different profession.

On the subject, I try to do tipping in-game like a restaurant. If it's my mats, it's 5%. If it's an enchanter's mats, I tip 10%. It may sound cheap, but for me, I tip extra for the effort spent in getting the mats (either by them stockpiling it or getting it from the AH). When I enchant, I find people rarely tip at all, or will generally tip 1 to 2 gold, even on higher enchants. It's one of the reasons I'm at 359 and holding. I could go out and advertise my enchants, but I find that I'm at the stage where I just use it to DE any BoE drops I get on my characters. I'd been stockpiling Outland mats for a while, but sold a lot to bankroll my second epic flight training. Like Mike, I make infinitely more money from disenchanting than I did by enchanting for people. Now, my enchanting is usually just for alts or guildies.

On the subject of making money, I've made two guides that are, for all intents and purposes, obsolete. The daily quests in Outland and Isle of Quel'Danas make moneymaking at 70 stupidly easy, and selling (or disenchanting) all the gear that drops, vendoring the grey trash, and selling the Scryer reputation items and motes you get makes a few hundred gold per session if you do all 25 possible dailies. There's still money to be made in Azeroth pre-60 (and my guide there still helps people who haven't got a 70), but the demands have changed there too. I know of people that took up enchanting at 70 just to disenchant and nothing else. They bought few (if any) recipes, and don't advertise enchants at all. I know of people that spend days on epic birds, mining, or farming motes using engineering, or prospecting gems from stacks of ore with jewelcrafting. They make tons of money. It's not a bad thing, just different.

I hadn't thought of it like that, Mike- I was thinking more along the lines of giving someone more of a tip for going out of their way to provide the mats. Thanks for giving a unique perspective!

I can't figure out why most chanters won't just give you a price when you want to use their mats. They keep asking me how much I'll give them. Would you ever use that in real life? When I do go look up how much the mats cost and offer them above that, they still want more.

Mages are the same way with ports. I have a mage so I know how much they really cost and get sickened by the price inflating going on.

5-10g Minimum, 10-20g for Rare. The one thing that I keep seeing repeated by people is that "All the person is doing is clicking a button." While that may be all that we are doing now, think about what it took to get that Receipe, Formula, Plan, as well as the required level to learn that plan. THAT is what you are paying for. On my realm, pre-bc, I was the first one with the +22int enchant ( Thats 2200 Dark Iron Ore just to go from Honored to Revered ). People tried getting the enchant for 1-2g, if not free. That is like slapping a person in the face.

I don't believe in the 50g or 100g tips, but thats jsut me. Some people are willing to pay those, but I have noticed it's the people that charge those prices that never tip in return.

You my friend, are either a moron or too nice. I'm guessing the second one.
If I had been you I would've send them /w "If you don't get here in about 5 minutes I'm going to assume you're letting me keep your mats for free." Anybody stupid (and rude) enough to go into an instance while you're waiting on them deserves nothing better. Give 'em a boot to the head, and if they cry to a GM you show them the SS you took.

Well as some of you have mentioned, yes, I am way too nice.

This person was juggling 4 characters and 2 accounts, trying to get all the mats together, which is why she gave me partial. I can understand how it is - I keep some mats on some characters, some on others. Also, well she was (allegedly) doing it to be nice to someone else - she was babysitting a couple kids for a friend of hers and twinking up two low lvl characters for them. So I was giving her a bit of benefit of doubt.

I wasn't too antsy or in a hurry at first - mainly because I was checking my mail, de-ing things from my bank alt, etc. However when I noticed 1/2 hr had gone by I started getting irritated. I was in the process of mailing her back her mats when she yelled "ding". (Actually I don't even know if she was on the character who dinged, or if it was one of the kids by then. <shakes head>

I realize I don't HAVE to be in a party, it's useful for finding someone though, and when I de for people, I rather have them in party just so they know exactly what everything de's into, and there's no nonsense about "I know you got a shard and you kept it."

LOL and more than that, I really don't like trying to keep up with doing enchants for more than one person at a time, otherwise it becomes a hassle trying to remember who wanted which enchantment on which item.

I just have to ask you what is your rarest enchant. I am personally a level 385 enchanter with a number of fairly rare enchants, some of which I payed over 1k to get the recipe for. Yet you would say that I shouldn't expect anything for doing the enchant. I am all about helping others and I would never charge a guildy or a good friend but not expecting anything that is just plain ridiculous.

Probably 90% of the people that agree to craft an item for you are doing it simply because they feel like being nice, or because it gives them a skill-up.

That being the case, consider the item's market value, then tip what you can afford. Most of us don't expect a 2g tip from a lvl 20 player for toughend leather gloves, or a 10g tip from a lvl 40 player. However, if you have the money and resources to get the mats for some lvl 70 epic, then you should probably be able to afford a tip that makes it worth the person's time, keeping in mind that lvl 70 players are out there making 10g+ per daily quest.

Anyone that spent "weeks" farming for a particular pattern with the idea they would get rich off of crafting needs a lesson on the reality of WoW.