No love for Blacksmithing?Follow

You already listed the use: you get awesome BoPs are max level.

You've been here for a long time, buddy; how have you forgotten that crafting skills hardly EVER make money?

I feel you man! BS seems to be getting the big old SHAFT a ROO!~

I am perpetually stuck at 359... admantite doesnt grow on trees and sure aint easy to come by with out an epic flyer.

AT 360 and 365 you are able to make the FELSTEEL set which as far as I have seen pay pretty good on AH. I dont like the BOP Stuff either. What gives, they are pretty much impossible to make, due to the fact that the MATS are nearly impossible to come by. Dont get me wrong I think the stuff is great, I went axesmith for my orc warrior. BUt I figure its a EPIC FLYING MOUNT vs lvl 1 2hander axe. Forget the conversion to the 2nd and 3rd verions, I could probally buy 3 epic flying mounts by that time! And its not like I could turn em around and sell them for a gazillion Gold, bloody BOP!

Just ranting... seems like BS is a pretty useless selfish crafting skill. Not at all like leatherworking(knothide leather armour kits), Tailoring(BAGS), Alchemy(POTS).

THE ONLY THING TO MAKE AND BE USEFUL IS RODS (for enchanters)! SO enchanters be ready to pay a pretty penny for your RODS!!! ;p

Edited, Mar 28th 2008 6:29am by Krullon

At least blacksmithing has some great endgame items. You want to see a trade skill that was forgotten by blizz take up leather working. Then lets talk.

The other side of blacksmiths getting the shaft is that tanks don't get ANYTHING useful out of blacksmithing (or any other crafting tradeskill in general). All of the BOP armorsmith gear is skewed towards fury warriors and retribution paladins, and of course the BOP weapons are similar.

Why not add a couple recipes to blacksmithing allowing them to make maybe some BOP leggings or a chest piece, or maybe add a BOP tanking sword for christ's sake.

God knows farming the Sun Eater takes long enough. Heck, a lot people get King's Defender from Kara before Sun Eater ever drops.

Lousy example on the LW patches - anyone who'd need 'em is in a guild with a LW that can make the suckers for them.

Blacksmithing is, I think, the only original profession I’ve not taken past 300. I’ve not played my warrior much since the expansion. But should I take him up again I’m now wondering if I should bother leveling up his blacksmithing. I’ve been saving up thorium bars. Would it be a waste to use them for leveling up blacksmithing?

Blacksmithing, along with Tailoring, are fine the way they are. In fact, I'd like Leatherworking to be more like Blacksmithing so I could actually craft something that I'll use besides drums.

Stam = Good
Armour = Good
+Hit = Good until capped
Crit = Meh
No defense = really bad

You can't rely on armour and stam to carry you as tank, you need avoidance as well. There are some pretty good tank sites out there, just have a look around. Also crit is unreliable as threat generator, there are much better abilities out there.

As a pallytank, there are just 2 or 3 pieces from BS I'd use, and all are BoE. And even they I'd switch for T4 for the extra spelldamage.



There should be some plans for all specs. There are a couple of good healing plate gear, and a lot of plate dps gear. Hardly anything for tanks, except various resistance gear.

Cheers :)

If you are talkin about making money BS is not the way, in the same way other crafting profs (LW,Tailoring) anrent particularly good money-spinners.

However if you mean for usefulness I absolutely love BS.
for tanking , the Blazeguard swordsmith weapon is amazing, Also Red Havoc boots are only surpassed by t6/BT drops (although again, they are BoP, so no money to be made.
for PVP , well basically <3 Stormherald
for DPS the Bulwark is ridiculously OP.

Obviously you can only specialise in one of the three, but unless you're a t5/6 raider you cannot get items to replace these (barring Mallet of the Tides over the Blazeguard, but then some would also debate that)

I would reccomend every warrior to take BS, even tho it is a horrible experience trying to level it.

Yes, it's a major pain to level to 300, I think I actually did some Dark Iron stuff, with BC now it's probably not that hard to get the mats, as long as you have someone to run with you to the Dark Anvil/Forge (unless you don't need it anymore, I'm not sure). But once you get to 300, it's easy to get to around 350 with the trainer, vendor and early rep recipes using mostly fel iron. As soon as you get recipes for the weightstones, sharpening stones, and runes of warding/shielding, make those - they only level you up for about 10 levels, but they're the most efficient for mats.

After that, I'd go and farm recipes in the OL instances. Felsteel can make some money, although you'd probably make more just selling the ore needed to make all that felsteel: e.g. Felsteel Helm = 8x Felsteel Bar = 24x Fel Iron Bar + 16 Eternium Bar = 48 Fel Iron Ore + 32 Eternium Ore. Felsteel Helm sells for about 55g on my server, I'm sure I could get more than that selling the ore, but it wouldn't level my BS.

Also, the Aldor/Scryer recipes aren't too bad to make, they sell alright as well.

I'm at 367 now, I just gather as I see it (saving up for my epic flyer) and when I have enough, I make felsteel stuff to level. I farmed the Khorium set of plans for myself, but I have a feeling Felsteel is the easiest set to get the recipes for, just run those instances (Crypts, Arc, and SL) over and over, you'll get more of worth than farming the Ragesteel and Khorium - although I did get to Revered with Kurenai from farming Khorium, as well as getting a good amount of Aldor rep tokens.

I still think it's worth it to slowly get up to 375, just to be ready for WotLK. Having said that, will there be anything of use to us in that expansion? We can only hope - as an armorsmith and paladin, it's a gamble.