I've just started a Warrior. All I'm reading in the trade forum is how differcult and unrewarding Blacksmithing is. It seems that with the new PVP gear out everyone is complaining that BS has been a waste of time and money? How true is this?
What's a good alternative for a Warrior? Mining for mats and money? Engineering? JC?
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Hmm.. personally I think there's more useful & rewarding professions out there which is sad i think :(
My Paladin took BSmithing and found it expensive & time-consuming to level through the huge amounts of iron-mithril-thorium needed for those stages (could of made so much gold selling all that ore/bars) and really there isn't a huge amount of items you can make that are BOP (i.e. not available to buy from other smiths). Never found many items that sell well either on the AH and it's risky to try because of weapons/armors the AH deposit is quite a lot and often the items won't sell.
There perhaps are a couple of items nice for end-game but few are BOP or better than PVP/raid gear - maybe check the list of smithing items under the tradeskill on this site to see if any really do spark your interest and make it worth your while ploughing through the tedium & expense to level it.
If you want to be rolling in gold i'd suggest mining/skinning (or mining/herb if you really wish to switch between both tracking types constantly) - all these gathering professions seem to make huge amounts of jingle-jangly coin, especially at the outlands levels ;)
Or, if you wish to enjoy the fun (and expense) of exploring a crafting profession, perhaps pick something like :-
mine/engineer for extra utillity/bombs/gadgets and the goggles...
Herb/alchemy for the potions - always useful right and sell the surplus?
They'd be my recommendations now after my poor Blood-Knight explerienve ;)
/crosses fingers they may add some improvements to smithing eventually.
My Paladin took BSmithing and found it expensive & time-consuming to level through the huge amounts of iron-mithril-thorium needed for those stages (could of made so much gold selling all that ore/bars) and really there isn't a huge amount of items you can make that are BOP (i.e. not available to buy from other smiths). Never found many items that sell well either on the AH and it's risky to try because of weapons/armors the AH deposit is quite a lot and often the items won't sell.
There perhaps are a couple of items nice for end-game but few are BOP or better than PVP/raid gear - maybe check the list of smithing items under the tradeskill on this site to see if any really do spark your interest and make it worth your while ploughing through the tedium & expense to level it.
If you want to be rolling in gold i'd suggest mining/skinning (or mining/herb if you really wish to switch between both tracking types constantly) - all these gathering professions seem to make huge amounts of jingle-jangly coin, especially at the outlands levels ;)
Or, if you wish to enjoy the fun (and expense) of exploring a crafting profession, perhaps pick something like :-
mine/engineer for extra utillity/bombs/gadgets and the goggles...
Herb/alchemy for the potions - always useful right and sell the surplus?
They'd be my recommendations now after my poor Blood-Knight explerienve ;)
/crosses fingers they may add some improvements to smithing eventually.
Unless you have a main toon who can supply you with mats, get 2 gathering skills (note - I consider DE an gathering skill). You'll get money faster, and can set yourself up to power level once you hit 70 (without spending tons of cash).
Having a gathering skill (minig, herb, etc..) to support your craft skill (BS, Alch, etc..) is very difficult. Your craft skill will usually be behind the curve, and you won't be able to make anything useful for yourself. You also spend all your time farming when you'd rather be leveling. Sucks all around.
Also, don't let anyone fool you. All crafting skills are difficult (Engineers complain, Jewelcrafters complain, BS complains...etc...). The truth is that all of them have their benefits, and you just need to decide which one suits your taste the best.
BS will get you some good armor and weapons.
Alchemy will get you some good pots and elixirs.
JC will get you good gems for armor, and some neat toys.
Eng will get you neat toys.
There is no "best" profession. You just need to find which one you want most.
For me, personally, I found that Enchanting is one of the best skills to level with. Nothing is worse than selling the BoP Soulbound "blue" quest reward, or drop, for pennies. Instead, you can DE it, and sell or use the mat. Unless you grind all the way to 70, you'll be getting lots of quest rewards (green and blue) that you don't need.
Having a gathering skill (minig, herb, etc..) to support your craft skill (BS, Alch, etc..) is very difficult. Your craft skill will usually be behind the curve, and you won't be able to make anything useful for yourself. You also spend all your time farming when you'd rather be leveling. Sucks all around.
Also, don't let anyone fool you. All crafting skills are difficult (Engineers complain, Jewelcrafters complain, BS complains...etc...). The truth is that all of them have their benefits, and you just need to decide which one suits your taste the best.
BS will get you some good armor and weapons.
Alchemy will get you some good pots and elixirs.
JC will get you good gems for armor, and some neat toys.
Eng will get you neat toys.
There is no "best" profession. You just need to find which one you want most.
For me, personally, I found that Enchanting is one of the best skills to level with. Nothing is worse than selling the BoP Soulbound "blue" quest reward, or drop, for pennies. Instead, you can DE it, and sell or use the mat. Unless you grind all the way to 70, you'll be getting lots of quest rewards (green and blue) that you don't need.
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I will have to agree with my disappointment in Making bs useless once again. Our crafted weps, armor gets easily replaced by PVP items and ssc/tk gear. There are no BS weps to compare to MH or BT. Once I get rid of my Lionheart Champion I have really thought about droppin it for Engineering or something else.
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This seems to be a common problem.
For more rapid leveling and less time consuming additional activity, (with all around better gear) two gathering professions seems right.
Most of the better guilds will have an assortment of tradesmen at different levels.
You be able to get most crafted gear at cost of materials (and a small tip--that will go a long way in continuing to get stuff you need) through your guild.
You will be way ahead (WOW gold) to do skinning and either mining or herbalism.
Pocket the gold (through an AH alt) and buy what you need. Then you will have enough for a mount at 40.
All of the professions can be power leveled (you should have enough gold to do them after a mount at level 40 or 60), but it seems on most servers crafters are not well rewarded at lower levels. Drops or purchased gear will do as well.
If you must craft(not encouraged below 40) consider alchemy/herbalist.
Some of the potions are useful, others sell well even at lower levels.
Plant materials are generally excellent sellers at all levels.
I have not done engineering--there are a few good gadgets which are available to engineers only(jumper cables stand out, and some bombs), and the pets are cool mechanical squirrel, chicken, frog, tranquil mechanical yeti.
All the best
Good gaming
For more rapid leveling and less time consuming additional activity, (with all around better gear) two gathering professions seems right.
Most of the better guilds will have an assortment of tradesmen at different levels.
You be able to get most crafted gear at cost of materials (and a small tip--that will go a long way in continuing to get stuff you need) through your guild.
You will be way ahead (WOW gold) to do skinning and either mining or herbalism.
Pocket the gold (through an AH alt) and buy what you need. Then you will have enough for a mount at 40.
All of the professions can be power leveled (you should have enough gold to do them after a mount at level 40 or 60), but it seems on most servers crafters are not well rewarded at lower levels. Drops or purchased gear will do as well.
If you must craft(not encouraged below 40) consider alchemy/herbalist.
Some of the potions are useful, others sell well even at lower levels.
Plant materials are generally excellent sellers at all levels.
I have not done engineering--there are a few good gadgets which are available to engineers only(jumper cables stand out, and some bombs), and the pets are cool mechanical squirrel, chicken, frog, tranquil mechanical yeti.
All the best
Good gaming
fermi wrote:
All of the professions can be power leveled (you should have enough gold to do them after a mount at level 40 or 60), but it seems on most servers crafters are not well rewarded at lower levels. Drops or purchased gear will do as well.
A rateup for your excellent post. However, I think that the mount prior to power-leveling a crafting profession should be the epic flier. An then not until you've built your war chest back up to the point where you don't need to farm a lot. At that point, you can make your craftable epics, and also be at a level where you can make and sell the really good BoEs for others.
I would take blacksmithing simply for the convenience of the earth-forged breastplate (and up-graded with armorsmithing). A good chest is vital for a warrior, almost as important as a weapon. it just has that many stats(and potential, with sockets). It will take raid gear to replace
The only part of smithing that would be remotely worth your while would be weaponsmithing, regardless of PvP or PvE preference. After looking at the epic crafted engineering goggles like the tankatronics (and thus the only reason I would consider being an engineer), I wouldn't go through the hassle of getting to 350 engineering, going through heroics to try and get lucky on getting a nether (or spending badges on them) plus the other mats for them just to have then easily replaced by tier 5 or equivalent gear.
Honestly, the ONLY real professions worth your while as a warrior are two gathering, herb/alch (and yes the Alchemist's stone is quite nice) or enchanting (and not just for +4 all stats to ring either...)
Honestly, the ONLY real professions worth your while as a warrior are two gathering, herb/alch (and yes the Alchemist's stone is quite nice) or enchanting (and not just for +4 all stats to ring either...)
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Honestly, the ONLY real professions worth your while as a warrior are two gathering, herb/alch (and yes the Alchemist's stone is quite nice) or enchanting (and not just for +4 all stats to ring either...)
I have to agree with this. Enchanting will always be worthwhile because as you upgrade gear, you can constantly keep it enchanted. Plus you get to DE cheaper greens and blues which, as YJMark stated, also counts as a gathering profession.
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