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#1 Oct 01 2007 at 4:36 AM Rating: Decent
I am confused what to expect from being Master of Transmutations. I've been Master of Transmutations for a while now. I am doing a primal transmutation every day. At first I would get an extra primal every other day. Sometimes I would get one extra 2 days in a row, sometimes 2 days in a row I would get none extra. Anyway I was happy with the working back then, getting one extra every now and then.

But now I haven't had a single proc for over 3 weeks in row. I did send in a support ticket to Blizzard asking if something was bugged or malfunctioning. They answered they did check it and concluded everything was working as it supposed to. I mean 3 weeks and not a single proc and its working fine?!? I find that hard to believe.

Anyone else experiencing this? Is it normal to not get a single proc for weeks?

Hopefully someone with more experience on being Transmutation Master can fill me in...

#2 Oct 01 2007 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
I have noticed the same thing. I was getting procs every few days and now, long dry spells. They may have adjusted it or it may just be dumb luck. We will probably never know.
#3 Oct 01 2007 at 8:46 AM Rating: Decent
Someone had me do a primal might transmute on doomhammer last night and it made 5 primal mights. He wanted 2 so I kept the rest, nice profit. Has it ever made that many for anyone else?
#4 Oct 01 2007 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
For me I have never got more then 1 extra. If I would get 4 extra I would be extremly suprised. Man for now I would be already very happy to get it to proc for 1 extra. Not a single proc in a couple weeks and Blizz confirming thats normal makes me doubt why I even choose master of transmute.
#5 Oct 01 2007 at 10:06 AM Rating: Good
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my mage has been a Xmute Master a while now.
the most extra i ever got from a proc was while xmuting Pwater to Pair i got a times 4.

I have noticed the rate of proc has decreased, but i still ave 1 proc a week or more like 1 proc ever 7-10 days.

its not broken, its just dumb luck. you might get a sting of 10 days in a row with extras, or wait over a month. its a percent chance each time you xmute to get a proc, that percentage has nothing to do with what happened last week, yesterday or tommorrow.

i think 5 extra is the cap as well, in all the posts i have read, i have yet to see anyone claim more then x5 and, even if they did claim it....screen shot or it never happened.
#6 Oct 01 2007 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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No procs in 2 weeks and no discoveries in 3 months.
I wish Blizz would admit some things are bugged from time to time.

#7 Oct 01 2007 at 12:12 PM Rating: Default
They aren't bugged, its working as intended. You want a 100% proc rate and that just isn't going to happen.

I recently switched from transmute to potion for this very reason. You can only do ONE transmute a day, but you're not limited in the number of potions or elixirs you can make. I'm doing good if I get a proc 1/10 times crafting potions. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the % for a proc is the same in all the alchemy specs. Its simple math to see that if you're looking for more visible successes then you're going to see them more in potion and elixir than in transmute.

If they gave transmute a higher proc chance then every other alchemist would start QQing left and right and blizzard doesn't want to deal with that.

The people that boast that they get a proc nearly every time they transmute are just lucky. They're the type of people to get 4-5 stars of elune out of prospecting a single stack of adamantite ore.

Transmute is working fine, if you want to see more procs more often then switch to elixir or potion, its what I did.
#8 Oct 01 2007 at 3:56 PM Rating: Good
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None is talking about 100% proc rate.
But if I transmute every day for 3 or 4 weeks, that makes it 21-28 transmutes without proc - bit less than your 1/10 I would say.

#9 Oct 01 2007 at 7:01 PM Rating: Default
its all random chance... even 1/10 could mean you could get 4-5 in a row or do 1000 and not get one.
#10 Oct 01 2007 at 11:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Sethy wrote:
None is talking about 100% proc rate.
But if I transmute every day for 3 or 4 weeks, that makes it 21-28 transmutes without proc - bit less than your 1/10 I would say.


If the proc rate is 10%, the chance of going three weeks without a proc despite transmuting every day is....

[drumroll]

10.9%, i.e. higher than the chance of getting a proc in any given day. The chance of a 22 run of "bad luck" dips to 9.8%
#11 Oct 02 2007 at 1:27 AM Rating: Decent
All thank you for your info. Last night spoke to several transmuters on my realm, all do confirm its possible to go without any proc for several weeks. I understand I just had luck when I first started out as transmute master. Guess I'm paying for that now. Hope my bad luck streak ends soon.

What is the longest term for anyone without a proc? Im up to 4 weeks now.
#12 Oct 05 2007 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
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so i have been trying to track my Xmute numbers and the number of procs within those Xmutes. i got a stack of primal earth and have been slowly going through them. as of writting this post i have 8 primal earth left to xmute, and have 13 primal water. so out of 12 days, 1 proc, 1 extra. not the greatest, but still 1 better then nothing. before this stack, i dont remember how long it had been since i had a proc.---but that doesnt matter since its a % chance each time.

its not broken, its just bad luck. you have a % chance each time to have a proc. what happened yesterday while Xmuting has nothing to do with what happens today. its a % chance on that particular Xmute to have a proc.

...and i havent had a discovery in well over 2 months. that isnt saying much though, i dont make that many pots/elixirs and only Xmute every 23 hours.
#13 Oct 08 2007 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I quite transmute mastery for this very reason (and also because once your crafts are done, elixir mastery is just so much better for raiding). I had the occasional +1 proc, but that was once a week at best, and then sometimes 2 weeks with nothing. In the end I decided it was useless. Of course if you're luckier it's better :-)

Re: discoveries it's a bit different, there are only so many discoveries to make. Basically a few flasks (pure death, blinding light, mighty resto and relentless assault - so 4 I think), a few pots/elixirs (? not even sure - super rejuv and then what?) and a few transmutes (got mana to fire and earth to life so far). So all in all we are talking about something in the range of 10-15 discoveries. I have discovered 6+, so obviously there are less and less to discover - that might have an impact on the proc chance.
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