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#1 Sep 29 2007 at 3:46 AM Rating: Decent
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I've been attempting to sell about 3 stacks of Vision Dust for a week now, and I haven't been able to sell more than 3 or 4 (individual ones, not full stacks), even when it's priced 5% or 10% under the median AH price for it (as gathered by Auctioneer). Also, I AM splitting them up into smaller bits for selling, not just trying to sell them in full stacks.

Mainly just wondering if it's because my server is ridiculously low population or if it's this hard to sell everywhere. :)

Figured this was the right place to post this, since it was a craft item. If not, sorry!

Thanks!
#2 Sep 29 2007 at 8:05 AM Rating: Decent
Not many people use it, I don't think
#3 Sep 29 2007 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Vision dust can be obtained in significant quantities from level 36-40 items and is used in 175-225 enchants... I seriously doubt there isn't much of a market for it.

What I've found is rather than listing each dust individually, except for essences and shards which do sell individually quite well, is to sell dust in stacks of 5. Won't hurt you any to try.
#4 Sep 29 2007 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
TheFallenOneKG wrote:
I've been attempting to sell about 3 stacks of Vision Dust for a week now, and I haven't been able to sell more than 3 or 4 (individual ones, not full stacks), even when it's priced 5% or 10% under the median AH price for it (as gathered by Auctioneer). Also, I AM splitting them up into smaller bits for selling, not just trying to sell them in full stacks.

Mainly just wondering if it's because my server is ridiculously low population or if it's this hard to sell everywhere. :)

Figured this was the right place to post this, since it was a craft item. If not, sorry!

Thanks!

The beauty of selling enchant mats is that it costs you absolutely nothing to list them. Patience is the watchword for the disenchanter. It doesn't matter whether it takes hours to sell them, or whether it takes weeks - they will sell eventually.
#5 Sep 29 2007 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
TheFallenOneKG wrote:
I've been attempting to sell about 3 stacks of Vision Dust for a week now, and I haven't been able to sell more than 3 or 4 (individual ones, not full stacks), even when it's priced 5% or 10% under the median AH price for it (as gathered by Auctioneer). Also, I AM splitting them up into smaller bits for selling, not just trying to sell them in full stacks.


(Bold and italic for emphasis.)

What are the other dust already on auction when you show up to list yours selling for?

I don't use the Auctioneer reported median anymore. I check the current prices of what I'm wanting to sell before I list. If the auctioneer reported median is too low relative to what is currently listed, I list appropriately. Same if the median is too high (unless the current prices are so low as to not be worthing selling my goods at that time).

If you're basing your price on the auctioneer reported median expecting that to be the current price and still undercutting by 5-10%, stop it. You're ******** over yourself and other enchanters by dropping the market value of your goods. Those enchanters in turn come around and undercut your 5-10% by 5-15% and before you know it, you'd get more gold vendoring the greens you disenchanted than you would for disenchanting them and selling the materials.

5% is sort of a maximum undercut value, and I'll often undercut by a single silver just so mine is the lowest price without altering the median.

If you're monitoring the prices with your own eyes, undercutting appropriately and still not selling anything, that's a good indicator that the market for that product is currently weak on your realm. You can keep listing at no loss to you, or bank the materials and try again in a week or two.


Edited, Sep 29th 2007 5:54pm by AureliusSir
#6 Sep 29 2007 at 8:39 PM Rating: Decent
AureliusSir wrote:
TheFallenOneKG wrote:
I've been attempting to sell about 3 stacks of Vision Dust for a week now, and I haven't been able to sell more than 3 or 4 (individual ones, not full stacks), even when it's priced 5% or 10% under the median AH price for it (as gathered by Auctioneer). Also, I AM splitting them up into smaller bits for selling, not just trying to sell them in full stacks.

(Bold and italic for emphasis.)

I hadn't noticed. You're right, Aurelius. The price that should be looked at is HSP (Highest Sellable Price), not median. I've stopped displaying median and base prices on my auctioneer display. Neither are worth a darn. I also have my undercut amount set to 1% because I'm not a big believer is undercutting wars. I'll also look at the competition and adjust upwards if there are only a few people posting prices lower than the recommended auctioneer prices.
#7 Sep 30 2007 at 1:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry, to clarify, I'm using the "Post Auctions" section of the AH that is added by Auctioneer, which uses the the "Suggested price", adjusted by the value of the items currently for sale. It also automatically undercuts by 5%. My prices are lower than the others, but not by much - and I don't drop prices on reposts, so the market isn't going to plummet. :)
#8 Sep 30 2007 at 2:47 AM Rating: Decent
to adjust the amount that auctioneer undercuts, type in the command
   /auc pct-undercut <number>

so if you wanted to change the undercut percentage from 5% to 1%, the command would be
   /auc pct-undercut 1
#9 Sep 30 2007 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
TheFallenOneKG wrote:
Sorry, to clarify, I'm using the "Post Auctions" section of the AH that is added by Auctioneer, which uses the the "Suggested price", adjusted by the value of the items currently for sale. It also automatically undercuts by 5%. My prices are lower than the others, but not by much - and I don't drop prices on reposts, so the market isn't going to plummet. :)


I use the Post Auctions section as well...I love it, because I often list several stacks of the same material at once and after I've entered the first price, it enters that price for me for the rest. I've had situations where the suggested price has been off considerably from what the current (ie. up to the moment) price is. In the case where the price it suggests is higher, I'm usually OK with that because I know I'm not gouging...people have paid that price before. In the case where the price it suggests is lower, it could be reflecting a downward trend in the market that just forces me to lose out on gold.

Auctioneer is a fantastic tool, but I've found over time that there are still some things worth checking out for myself.
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