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#1 Mar 28 2007 at 6:46 PM Rating: Decent
I'm an Enchanter of skill level 210. So far enchanting has not made me a single copper piece, and has instead cost me horrendous amounts of money. I can't get my skill up without buying lots of mats, and even then I have to cast them for free or cheap because no one is willing to pay for anything.

My other profession is tailoring. Oftentimes I find myself enchanting/disenchanting my tailored goods just so I can get my skill up.

What's the trick to making money as an enchanter? Surely there must be something I'm missing. I'm considering starting over as a skinner/miner but I've invested so much in enchanting I'd hate to quit now.
#2 Mar 28 2007 at 7:41 PM Rating: Good
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You are indeed missing something. :D As an enchanter, you don't make money from selling the enchants themselves, you make money selling the materials needed. You said you were buying mats from the AH to level your skill?? No. Learn what equipment disenchants into what and buy it cheap, get your mats that way.

See this thread for a discussion: http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=69;mid=1157378790253194230;num=207;page=1

Might want to look around the boards a little before you post as this thread was only a few posts below yours :D

Also take a look at this one: http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=69;mid=117097209449034017;num=24;page=1

Hope that helps some.
#3 Mar 29 2007 at 2:16 AM Rating: Decent
I got to 300 enchanting with my lvl 60 dwarf rogue back when enchanting was more expensive to level up than it is now. Don't get too discouraged, it really is a worthwhile profession. Much like Khalane said, you should disenchant for the materials that you need for whatever enchants that your doing. Also, I found disenchanting to be much more profitable than enchanting is -- many of the materials sell amazingly well on the auction house, and none of the materials have an auction fee.

What I did with my dwarf enchanter was find equipment that was selling for cheap on the auction house, buyout the equipment, disenchant them, and sell the disenchanted materials for more than I paid for the equipment. At the time, I was disenchanting mid-level weapons for Greater Nether Essences. Greater Nether Essences sold for 6 gold each and most mid-level weapons had 3 gold buyouts. Sometimes I would even get two Greater Nether Essences from one disenchant, but other times I would get Soul Dust which sold for significantly less. Anyhow, I would almost triple the amount of money that I spent on buying the mid-level weapons. In worse case scenarios I would have to deal with competitors trying to undercut my Greater Nether Essence prices, but I would simply buyout all their Essences and resell them at my listed price. Problem solved, and so was my gold making problem.

Give disenchanting a try, you should be able to make some good money or at least make back all of the money that you have spent on getting your enchanting skill up, and the greatest thing of all is that you wont have sit around in Orgrimmar or Ironforge spamming the enchantments that your trying to sell.


What I wish that Blizzard would do with enchanting is make it so you can imprint enchantments onto scrolls that you could sell on the auction house; they could be used much like how we use armor kits. However, the problem with this idea, much like the problem with every other profession, is auction house undercutters. There are too many people out there with the Walmart mentality, its very difficult to make a profit off of a crafting profession as its usually a lot more profitable to sell raw materials than finished products.
#4 Mar 29 2007 at 5:02 AM Rating: Decent
Read the links Khalane posted. Disenchanting really works. It made me enough money to buy my 60 mount at level 54. This is my first character too. And now I'm using the extra gold to buy equipments and patterns from AH for me and my hubby. (He's tailoring/alchemy, and I'm enchanting/herbalism, so we have no other money sources).

Also, at level 210, you should be able to skill up by selling your yellow/orange enchants at mat cost (or mat cost - 5% AH cut). This is not for making money, but for getting some money back for something that you'd otherwise do over and over on your own equipment. I started selling mat cost enchants at level 180 with +5 strength for bracers. I am level 297 now. Just don't waste your time standing idly in Ironforge or Orgrimmar waiting for customer. I spam my ad while browsing the AH for cheap blues and greens.

Good luck.
#5 May 10 2007 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
What works for my alt enchanter is my main character feeds items that are Bind on Equip to the Enchanter for getting my skill up and getting mats.

You need extra bags to hold the huge variety of mats things disenchant into, but it pays off in the long run.
#6 May 10 2007 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I totally agree with everything said already.

The only thing I have to add is...be patient.

Don't be in a hurry to level up your Enchanting skill. Accumalate the needed materials over time and stock up. Trying to do it too quickly means you'll overpay for either the mats, or the items to disenchant to get the mats.

Good Luck.
#7 May 16 2007 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Well i hope this isn't your first toon. Imo enchanting should be done later on when you have quite a bit of gold from your main so you can supply your enchanting alt.

As stated above enchanting will never make you a great amount of money. Disenchanting on the other hand will. You could get to 275 and be able to DE everything in the game but, epics from raids. The only problem with this is, you will be broke till you can start selling the mats.

I look at enchanting this way. It is something you can do for fun, not to make money. It is very beneficial to your guild esspeically for raiding.

#8 May 16 2007 at 3:00 PM Rating: Default
disenchanting= prolly biggest profit from chanting
u need to set some aside for later tho
little by little
#9 May 16 2007 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
I started off my enchanting adventures having first read some information on disenchanting for profit. As a result, I had enough gold for my first mount at level 32 (including riding training) as well as training all class/pet skills and upgrading all armor from leather -> chain at level 40 (I play a Hunter). In addition, when it was all said and done, I still had over 100g on hand.

Fast forward a bit and it was time to raise the cap on Enchanting from 225-300. Everything I read said that whether you go to Uldaman or Shattrath, bring enough mats to raise your skill as high as you possibly can while you're standing next to the trainer so you don't have to make another trip for a while. I paid 5g for a port to Shattrath and used up over 200g worth of mats training enchanting from 225-265 (then I was out of mats ; ;). Despite this, I didn't notice a 'loss' from using so many reagents. They were all mats I had set aside while disenchanting for profit. The profit remained steady as my stockpile grew.

What really hurt was the last 10 points I wanted so I could hit 275 and disenchant (almost) everything I could get my hands on, regardless of what level it was. I rushed through it and it's taken me a while to re-establish my reserves, but now I can frequently buy something from auction for ~3-5g and disenchant it into 12-15g worth of reagents. How quickly I can earn gold is limited only by how many items are on auction in the appropriate level range at a suitable price.

Currently, as a level 45 hunter who plays WoW on a casual basis, I have over 100g on hand, over 100g worth of reagents currently listed on auction waiting to sell, and well over 200g worth of reagents sitting in the bank for use/sale (depending on whim). I also have over 50g tied up in bids on things I plan to disenchant. So in other words, my net worth (not counting disenchant value on the gear I have equipped on my hunter) is over 450g.

(I also have skinning to ~290 on my Hunter, but I never make anything from that. Everything I get from skinning goes to my leatherworking alt for future use.)

Enchanting is a very straightforward profession to earn an income with, it just takes a little practice and a little mental energy to get the hang of what to buy and for how much. Addons like Auctioneer and Enchantrix can be a huge benefit for new enchanters entering the "disenchant for profit" market, but I find that I don't use either so much anymore because my server is still quite new and the market is highly volatile. This causes the income predictions from either addon to be often skewed.
#10 May 17 2007 at 7:48 AM Rating: Decent
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/agree with everything said so far.

Also, instead of enchanting the same piece of equipment over and over to skill up, I skilled up my enchanting alt by making the low-level mana and wizard oils whenever possible. It cost a little more in terms of reagents, but I was left with something tangible that I could use myself, pass to guildies, or sell on the AH. I’m not sure if the oils *would* sell, since I used them on my main, but it’s worth a try.
#11 May 17 2007 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
The prollem with DISenchanting is that it stops giving skill-ups after enchanting level 60 or so.
#12 May 17 2007 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
Kayleefrye wrote:
I can't get my skill up without buying lots of mats, and even then I have to cast them for free or cheap because no one is willing to pay for anything.

LOL @ someone who thinks that money in enchanting comes from selling enchants.

Think of "enchanting" as a crafting skill. Crafting skills ONLY make money if you can find a niche.

Think of "disenchanting" as a gathering skill. Gathering skills always make money.

Stop trying to sell enchants and start thinking in the right direction. Make money from people who think that "enchanting" should bring in the big bucks. They will always be losers.

bgredsox wrote:
The prollem with DISenchanting is that it stops giving skill-ups after enchanting level 60 or so.

Of course it doesn't, but while you are making money from disenchanting, you are also gatheing materials to up your skill. You don't up your skill by selling enchants to ungrateful people. You raise your skill by enchanting your own armor/weapons repeatedly while using your extra mats (and still making gold from those you don't use).

Edited, May 17th 2007 5:05pm by ohmikeghod
#13 May 17 2007 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Certain enchants sell for a f**k load of cash. What iam refering to is the weapon enchants with glows and effects. Unholy, greater agility, frost, fire and greater striking etc have all sold for 40g to 300g.
#14 May 18 2007 at 10:02 AM Rating: Decent
Tenjen wrote:
Certain enchants sell for a f**k load of cash. What iam refering to is the weapon enchants with glows and effects. Unholy, greater agility, frost, fire and greater striking etc have all sold for 40g to 300g.


How much money did you lose getting your skill to the level where you can cast those? How much money do you lose by providing the mats for them? While the enchants are expensive, so are the materials needed to cast them. I doubt that your profit margin is more than 10% when you cast those expensive enchants, while I make 50% or better from selling mats. I also don't have to waste my time standing on the Auction House Bridge hawking the enchants and looking for customers.
#15 May 18 2007 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
Enchanting is not a money-making prof unless you are selling your enchants. Even then getting people to pay for the enchants is tough enough as it is. I learned this too, but I read these posts and have not made a killing but have made good money. I am an enchanter for "my" benefit and for my guildies and friends. I haven't ever sold an enchant. I have enchanted to lvl up and some people have tipped but never for making money.

I d/e everything I get and use the mats. I also lost tons of money buying mats before Ohmike smacked me and woke me up. Now I stockpile all my mats and sell and make good money. I stockpile what I need for the next lvl of enchants and then make "1" trip if I can. Forget that back and forth stuff.

Like noted in other posts - Unless you have the specific "specialty" weapon enchants you are not going to make much money enchanting. D/E everything you have and sell the mats. Watch you AH and see how things sell. Download, I believe, the Enchantrix and Auctioneer mods. They will help.
Good Luck!! Don't give up!
#16 May 21 2007 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
I am giving away the farm here but.....here we go

OK, another prime example:

I looted one-handed mace from a gorilla on island E of Booty Bay. It was a lvl 44 mace - Bludgeon of the Bear or something like that. I d/e it right away. Get lucky and get Large Radiant Shard. When get to AH check market. Selling for 10g apiece.
Guess what I did? Became 10g richer.
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