I am 300 dragonscale LW and I have not made much money off of it despite my best efforts. It seems to me that their are better tradeskills to get like weaponsmithing or engineering.
It's partner skinning doesnt stack up for me either. Mining is much better on just a profit level.
Can someone tell me the benifits of LW over other tradeskills b/c I am pretty close to switching to engineer/miner.
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I think you have got it wrong. All crafting professions are a waste of time with your definition. You use your gathering professions to make money. Leatherworking is for you to make some nice items yourself. Have a look at the stuff you can make on this website (point to the navigation bar on the left). Do you see yourself wearing any of them? Then have a look at weaponsmithing and engineering? See anything you really really want to use? If not, then just pick up another gathering profession alongside skinning. By the way, to make full use of a crafting profession, you need to level it so you get to make and wear the gear as soon as your level permits. If you let it lag behind, you'll never make anything you want to wear.
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I had dragonscale LW a little after 40th level. I could make really good shammie mail with it which really sucked before BC, and b/c I am a hunter. So I have never really lagged behind it just seems I have always found better gear on AH for my hunter than I could make with LW.
I recently increased my cap to 375 and I am level 50. I know I haven't seen all the new recipes with BC, but I still regret taking LW this far. A friend of mine makes a fortune selling stacks of refined ore and the like not to mention the phantom blade craze that happened not so long ago.
I started looking at engineering and it seems really helpful not to mention in a pinch with its related mining skill I could make alot more.
What do you all think?
I recently increased my cap to 375 and I am level 50. I know I haven't seen all the new recipes with BC, but I still regret taking LW this far. A friend of mine makes a fortune selling stacks of refined ore and the like not to mention the phantom blade craze that happened not so long ago.
I started looking at engineering and it seems really helpful not to mention in a pinch with its related mining skill I could make alot more.
What do you all think?
Oh, you are already level 300+ at 50. It'd be a pity to drop it now. Have you looked at all the high level patterns? Are you sure there aren't anything you want to make. I've heard there are quite a few good patterns for hunters.
Anyway, just skin to make money. I'm not a skinner or a leatherworker, but people here keeps saying that knothide leather sells for a lot of gold. Also, if you are not a leatherworker, you won't be able to make that gold since you get knothide scraps a lot in the outland. You also need leatherworking to make heavy knothide leather, which sells for even more gold.
Also, I don't think mining is the most profitable gathering profession. I actually think disenchanting is. (I make money with disenchanting, but I actually do enchants unlike some disenchanter here :) Nothing is easier than browse AH, bid, quit game, come back next day to check mail box, click disenchant button, put back up on AH for easy gold.
Mining and herbing just sounds too much work. I have herbalism, but I don't gather herbs for money, only for the pots I need. I found mounting up and doing herb runs too troublesome. Rather spend quality time in WoW on something more fun. (Ok, I do sell the herbs if I get more than a full stack of 20, so I know it's not uber profitable).
Edited, Mar 2nd 2007 11:28am by LittleHamster
Anyway, just skin to make money. I'm not a skinner or a leatherworker, but people here keeps saying that knothide leather sells for a lot of gold. Also, if you are not a leatherworker, you won't be able to make that gold since you get knothide scraps a lot in the outland. You also need leatherworking to make heavy knothide leather, which sells for even more gold.
Also, I don't think mining is the most profitable gathering profession. I actually think disenchanting is. (I make money with disenchanting, but I actually do enchants unlike some disenchanter here :) Nothing is easier than browse AH, bid, quit game, come back next day to check mail box, click disenchant button, put back up on AH for easy gold.
Mining and herbing just sounds too much work. I have herbalism, but I don't gather herbs for money, only for the pots I need. I found mounting up and doing herb runs too troublesome. Rather spend quality time in WoW on something more fun. (Ok, I do sell the herbs if I get more than a full stack of 20, so I know it's not uber profitable).
Edited, Mar 2nd 2007 11:28am by LittleHamster
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I have read about knothide and it is good but I am just thinking about other professions that might be better for me.
You mention enchant which is awesome b/c you can always use a Blue BOP for more cash than just vendoring if you can't use. Not to mention like you said using the AH maybe auctioneer and making money. Also you get the added benefit of being able to enchant your gear.
I was really looking into engineering. A lot of the items are helpful little one shoters like bombs and nets and things. It seems to me that a lot of people as they reach end game and have less need for gold they would take engineering just to be able to have access to equipment you otherwise couldnt use.
Maybe it is just a grass is greener thing. I hate to go further with LW if I am going to start over with another skill.
I will have to check out more things about it I guess.
You mention enchant which is awesome b/c you can always use a Blue BOP for more cash than just vendoring if you can't use. Not to mention like you said using the AH maybe auctioneer and making money. Also you get the added benefit of being able to enchant your gear.
I was really looking into engineering. A lot of the items are helpful little one shoters like bombs and nets and things. It seems to me that a lot of people as they reach end game and have less need for gold they would take engineering just to be able to have access to equipment you otherwise couldnt use.
Maybe it is just a grass is greener thing. I hate to go further with LW if I am going to start over with another skill.
I will have to check out more things about it I guess.
Just be aware that engineering is very expensive to level. Also, it's considered a bit useless at the moment. However, on the european o-boards, blizzard posters posted that it'll be the first crafting profession to get fixes.
For enchanting, if you are only disenchanting blue stuff you get from drops, it's not profitable. Buying an enchant from an enchanter is cheaper than leveling the craft up and doing it yourself. (Despite what you might think as eye dropping prices). The money in enchanting is only in disenchanting AH greens/blues.
Think carefully before you drop leatherworking since it's already 300+. Read on this board and the o-boards what people think of different professions. Ask your guild mates who have the professions you are interested in. Even talk to people in general chat! You don't want to regret about your decision later.
Good luck with whatever you decide. In the end, engineering might really be what you are interested in.
Edited, Mar 2nd 2007 12:10pm by LittleHamster
For enchanting, if you are only disenchanting blue stuff you get from drops, it's not profitable. Buying an enchant from an enchanter is cheaper than leveling the craft up and doing it yourself. (Despite what you might think as eye dropping prices). The money in enchanting is only in disenchanting AH greens/blues.
Think carefully before you drop leatherworking since it's already 300+. Read on this board and the o-boards what people think of different professions. Ask your guild mates who have the professions you are interested in. Even talk to people in general chat! You don't want to regret about your decision later.
Good luck with whatever you decide. In the end, engineering might really be what you are interested in.
Edited, Mar 2nd 2007 12:10pm by LittleHamster
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I have also felt the same way about LW. I'm level 65 with my LW somewhere around 345ish. I have put a lot more cash into it, than I have made, but through the levels, I have made many peices that I wore for a few levels. Right now I'm wearing a 4 piece set that I made myself. To me, that is kind of nice. Being able to actually wear something that you made.
As far as cash, it seems like you are better off selling the mats, than the actual items. Cheapest I have seen a stack of Knothide leather go for is 22g. The norm is usually around 30g. Fight in Nagrand for a little bit, and you'll have plenty of skins to sell.
Right now I'm trying to get thick clefthide leather. Pretty rare skin, but the items that use it are incredible.
As far as cash, it seems like you are better off selling the mats, than the actual items. Cheapest I have seen a stack of Knothide leather go for is 22g. The norm is usually around 30g. Fight in Nagrand for a little bit, and you'll have plenty of skins to sell.
Right now I'm trying to get thick clefthide leather. Pretty rare skin, but the items that use it are incredible.
One other reason to stick with a crafting proffession you've taken the time to level up is that you can make good stuff for lower level guildies and alts.
if you go for that...
if you go for that...
Once you get to the Outlands things improve dramatically.
As a level 64 druid, I've made some pretty nice armor for myself. I've also made some pretty nice stuff for hunter and rogue guildies.
Armor kits are pretty handy.
Riding Crops go for some pretty good cash, though the components can be tough to get easily.
Heavy Knothide leather sells easily on the AH for 5 gold for each piece (that's each piece, not stack) on my server (Rexxar). Pretty good money for skinning stuff you're just killing anyway. You'll also find lots of corpses that folks don't skin.
I'd stick with it a bit longer until getting to the Outland before making a decision.
As a level 64 druid, I've made some pretty nice armor for myself. I've also made some pretty nice stuff for hunter and rogue guildies.
Armor kits are pretty handy.
Riding Crops go for some pretty good cash, though the components can be tough to get easily.
Heavy Knothide leather sells easily on the AH for 5 gold for each piece (that's each piece, not stack) on my server (Rexxar). Pretty good money for skinning stuff you're just killing anyway. You'll also find lots of corpses that folks don't skin.
I'd stick with it a bit longer until getting to the Outland before making a decision.
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I was in a same boat as u,i was 270 leatherworker/300 skinner , really enjoyed the nice shining armor i can make for myself , but had no clue on how to make mount money by lev 60 . So i dropped it in favor of enchanting/mining and going from lev 51 to lev 54 i made around 350 gold . Its sad when u drop something as developed as 300 lw but u need to think whats better for yourself -money or self equip. And yes knothide leather sells for a nice money , but u wont get there before lev 58, so if u need a mount by lev 60 keeping your skinning /leatherworking may not be the best idea. On a bright side though stuff like riding crops sells for a lot of money and some others i am sure so if lev 60 mount is not top priority for u, u can develop it further and see the end of it. Good luck!
you take a crafting skill to make stuff to wear for you, alts, friends, guildies, not to make money. only gathering skills and disenchanting really make money... alchemist do kinda with transmutes, but ive spent way more on my alchemist buying mats to level it up then i have gotten from transmuting tips.
most of the high level gear that i could make and would want to wear costs in the 500-700g range. but by time i can get the recipes and mats ill have way, way, better then them. they really screwed up recipe drops and stuff. why would a drop for a recipe drop off mobs that drop better gear then what the recipe makes? it makes no sense. the level 70 blue/purple items i want to make for myself shouldnt drop in karazhan and tempest keep but in auchindoun crypts and rare mobs in non-instances.
if i could do it all over again i wouldnt change it because i was wearing the dusky items, nightscape, and tough scorpid stuff i made myself for the better part of my time from 35-55 until i had friends make better or i started getting really good quest and instance drops. the basic leatherworking sets (BP, glove, legs, boots)for rogue/hunter/druid/shaman are really good for the respective class and at 70 ive only repped one of the pieces and have gotten several quest rewards from netherstorm and shadowmoon which arent nearly as good.
im stuck at 352 with stuff i cant make because i need many primals in addition to heavy knothide to make, so i just do combines for friends guildies for skill ups now.
leatherworking has mostly been worth it if only to turn scraps/knothide into heavy knothide leather and sell those in the AH when i get a bunch... i sell em for 6-8g each depending on how much are up in AH at the time.
most of the high level gear that i could make and would want to wear costs in the 500-700g range. but by time i can get the recipes and mats ill have way, way, better then them. they really screwed up recipe drops and stuff. why would a drop for a recipe drop off mobs that drop better gear then what the recipe makes? it makes no sense. the level 70 blue/purple items i want to make for myself shouldnt drop in karazhan and tempest keep but in auchindoun crypts and rare mobs in non-instances.
if i could do it all over again i wouldnt change it because i was wearing the dusky items, nightscape, and tough scorpid stuff i made myself for the better part of my time from 35-55 until i had friends make better or i started getting really good quest and instance drops. the basic leatherworking sets (BP, glove, legs, boots)for rogue/hunter/druid/shaman are really good for the respective class and at 70 ive only repped one of the pieces and have gotten several quest rewards from netherstorm and shadowmoon which arent nearly as good.
im stuck at 352 with stuff i cant make because i need many primals in addition to heavy knothide to make, so i just do combines for friends guildies for skill ups now.
leatherworking has mostly been worth it if only to turn scraps/knothide into heavy knothide leather and sell those in the AH when i get a bunch... i sell em for 6-8g each depending on how much are up in AH at the time.
why would a drop for a recipe drop off mobs that drop better gear then what the recipe makes? it makes no sense.
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I had the same problem with my first warrior quest. By the time I got the quest I already had better equipment. Hardly seemed worth it. Not a natural progression in my mind.
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I had the same problem with my first warrior quest. By the time I got the quest I already had better equipment. Hardly seemed worth it. Not a natural progression in my mind.
I scrapped my 245 LWing for Enchanting. Im already making money off all the skins I can now sell.
stormshroud leggings = 30g profit a day for me
cant complain as i counted i click about 40 buttons..........
depends tho no one wants to buy pre lvl 60 blues D: still selling a few tho
just stick with it have you seen the armour sets at lvl 375!!!!!!!! imba MUCH!!
cant complain as i counted i click about 40 buttons..........
depends tho no one wants to buy pre lvl 60 blues D: still selling a few tho
just stick with it have you seen the armour sets at lvl 375!!!!!!!! imba MUCH!!
You always make money with gathering skills, even if you just vendor the gathered items.
Any crafting skill requires investment in time and gold. From recipes to ingredients you have to pay for these.
You only get to make money from tradeskill when you craft high end gear or low-level gear for alts. But don't expect to make a killing.
Right now, I'm enjoying leveling LW. I got it to 267 so far.
Any crafting skill requires investment in time and gold. From recipes to ingredients you have to pay for these.
You only get to make money from tradeskill when you craft high end gear or low-level gear for alts. But don't expect to make a killing.
Right now, I'm enjoying leveling LW. I got it to 267 so far.
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