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#1 Feb 09 2007 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
Deviate and Savory Deviate Delight - is there only value the ninja/pirate buff? I have seen posts of these fish cooked selling for 8g-20g(depending on stack). What makes these so valuable?

Last night caught 13 Firefin Snappers that were going for couple gold stacked in AH. What purpose do these serve?

Again caught 7 Oily Blackmouths and sold them for 40s.

I can only assume that these fish are used for something valuable. Possible potion?? They are labeled Reagent - so they have to have some purpose. Is there any one out there that can learn me something??

Hopefully, my server will have enough people that crave these....because good for me if they do.

#2 Feb 09 2007 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
Trade Skills FAQ wrote:

Fish you'll want for alchemy: [wowitem=6358]Oily Blackmouth[/wowitem], [wowitem=6359]Firefin Snapper[/wowitem], and [wowitem=13422]Stonescale Eel[/wowitem]
The fun fish (Ohmikeghod added): [wowitem=6522]Deviate fish[/wowitem]


So yes the deviate fish are pretty much for the fun factor of being costumed after eating.

Edited, Feb 9th 2007 2:54pm by thermalnoise
#3 Feb 09 2007 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Oily Blackmouth and Firefin Snapper are used by Alchemists.

Two Oily Blackmouths yield Blackmouth Oil, which is used in underwater breathing potions and a couple others.
Two Firefin Snappers yield Fire Oil, which is used in a couple different fire-type potions and a few Crimson Silk tailoring items.

The other fish to look out for that sells well are Stonescale Eels. One eel yields Stonescale Oil, used by Alchemists. You have to be a little higher fishing level and be in the right zones, but Stonescale Eels will generally make a decent amount of money.

The reason Savory Deviate Delight are expensive is because the recipe is hard to come by. Uncooked Deviates go for about 2 for 50s on my server.

For all of these, use the search on this site for complete info.
#4 Feb 09 2007 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
WOW! Thanks! Sounds like I am making a trip to Booty Bay to get my fishing book. Probably will start fishing Oilys and Firefins more than Deviates. Just more of a guaranteed sell.

Once again thank you for the info.
#5 Feb 10 2007 at 1:41 AM Rating: Decent
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I made pretty much all my mount money from levels 33-35 just selling oily blackmouths and firefins :) they sell pretty well.
#6 Feb 11 2007 at 5:12 AM Rating: Decent
Also fish in BB for the wreckage, you can get bolts of runecloth that you can sell to tailors, or if you are a tailor use them
#7 Feb 11 2007 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
CaptianM wrote:
Also fish in BB for the wreckage, you can get bolts of runecloth that you can sell to tailors, or if you are a tailor use them

YOu do realize that Booty Bay is not the only place with floating wreckage, don't you? You can find it along most shorelines and in amny rivers and lakes.
#8 Feb 12 2007 at 2:47 AM Rating: Decent
I'm a keen fisherman, but I never farm fish on purpose. I found that it's too easy to flood the market with alchemy fish. I think there aren't many people fishing, but the demand isn't especially high either. I only fish in the following two situations
1. Whenever I see schools while out questing. The schools tend to congregate and I always end up with a lot of the same fish. Sometimes the school seems to be non-exhaustible and I give up after I have a couple of stacks. I slowly release them onto the AH a stack at a time.

2. While waiting for ferries. There's nothing better to do and I seem to get 1-3 alchemy fish for every ride. It adds up.

Good luck fishing.
#9 Feb 12 2007 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Good point LittleHamster. I totally agree that demand seems to fluctuate a lot on the money fish (Oily Blackmouth, Firefin Snapper, and Stonescale Eel). Also, in my experience, fish tend to be very subject to lowballers. The combination of these two factors can make for a volatile and unpredictable market.

It probably depends on server, but on mine it seems like there are often people that are ignorant of the real value of fish that flood the market with very low prices. I say ignorant, because this just can't be a case of trying to corner the market. Fish are too plentiful and it seems it would be nearly impossible to monopolize the market profitably.

Like Hamster, I fish the money-fish pools usually only when convenient (and the wreckage whenever I see it), but sometimes make fishing runs up the more productive areas (e.g., STV coast, Feralas coast, et al.). I store up fish until I have full stacks then send them to my bank alt. I usually sell them in less than full stack increments; on my server the full stacks don't seem to sell as well.

Like any commodity, it is important to know the prices and values. Be patient. If people are lowballing, don't fall into the trap, just wait it out.
#10 Feb 12 2007 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
On my server I have not seen a lot of these fish selling at any given time. Usually I check what is in the AH before I price mine out. Very rarely do I find anyone else selling. Maybe I will get lucky because I have sold Firefins on 2 different occasions and when checked there weren't any in the AH. I have sold approx 40 savory deviates and didn't price really high, but I do always sell. I have made about 15g on these seems like easy money.
The funny thing I have sold 14 Firefins for 9g. So I have been making trips, when free, to Stonetalon and fishing.
I have just came across Sagefish in Tauren Hill(i know spelled wrong, joking) and have put them on the market to test and see what value these have. I started with 5 for 2g50s buyout. How do these sell on other servers?

Thank you for all the great info. Nice for a change to not have people insulting you for a question. And yes, after noted I did check the FAQs and smacked myself!
#11 Feb 13 2007 at 2:03 AM Rating: Decent
Wow, 14 Firefins for 9g. That surely is high. I sell them between 30-60s for 5 depending on the AH situation. (Like azwing, I sell my fish in smaller than full stack). I usually don't list when it's below 40s. There are a lot of lowballers on my server, and the price and availability of the fish fluctuates a lot. There will be days with more than a page of listing, and other days with none. This is why it's important to look at the AH before listing. Unlike real life, fish doesn't rot in the bank afterall.

And neither sagefish or greater sagefish sells on my server. But yours might be different.

Edited, Feb 13th 2007 5:05am by LittleHamster
#12 Feb 13 2007 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I am not really aware of sagefish being a money maker. As far as I know, it's only use is in cooking. It isn't used by alchemists. Because of this, there really isn't much demand for it. I'd be very surprised if your 5 for 2g 50s auction sells.

Also, on Alliance side at least, sagefish are very abundant in certain areas. For example, in Hilsbrad Foothills in the river just east of Southshore there are so many sagefish schools you can practically use them as stepping stones. I could probably catch 100 sagefish in an hour without much trouble. So, supply could easily outstrip demand, if there was a demand.

For making money, probably best to stick to Oily Blackmouth, Firefin Snapper, and Stonescale Eel. And yeah, 14 Firefin for 9g is doing quite well. I would not expect that rate hold up long term.
#13 Feb 13 2007 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
I will note the sagefish are excellent health and mana buffs!

When you eat sagefish this is your reward:

raw sagefish - 155 health 315 mana
smoked sagefish - 378 health 567 mana + if completed +3 mana every 5 sec
sagefish delight - 848 health 1260 mana + if completed +6 mana every 5 sec

So just the pure fact that you can eat this and kill two fish with one stone I think is the very reason I have started trying to sell them.

As you said Azwing, I have not found these yet on the West continent. I was on the Eastern continent. There are schools of these things everywhere on the East con.
I will keep everyone posted. I have 10 sagefish that I am going to cook tonight and put on AH.

#14 Feb 13 2007 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm curious to hear your results. In my experience, this type of fish/food (with buffs) are not really big sellers. This may change with some of the high level cooked items, but I can't speak from experience on that. I think that the demand just isn't high enough to drive prices to make it worthwhile (i.e., profitable enough) to spend the time fishing. My guess would also be that most people that are aware of the buff benefits of certain foods will be the type that take the time to skill up fishing/cooking to get their own. I think what drives the demand for the three main money fish (Oily Blackmouth, Firefin Snapper, Stonescale Eel) is primarily the inherent laziness of some people in acquiring mats needed to make other mats for alchemy. Laziness isn't necessarily the right word, since for some it's simply a matter of money not really being an object and ultimately, for them, it's cheaper to buy mats than to spend the time fishing.

Like I said, though, I'll be interested to see your results.

On another note...scanning through the list of fish (http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/fishing.html?byitem=1), I just remembered that Winter Squid are another decent selling fish. When cooked, the Grilled Squid will restore 874 health and give a 10 Agility boost for 10 minutes. They're harder to come by because there are no Squid schools. But, they do usually sell.

The linked list above is a little clunky with all the other items that you can catch listed, but check through it and look at prices and read what people have commented about them. Note that the huge fish (e.g., 17-pound Catfish, which shows a median price of 90s) are really not used for anything (they are just an off-hand showoff piece, I guess designed for humor) and are unlikely to sell on the AH, despite the prices listed.

Basically, some fish may sell once in a while, but in general Oily Blackmouth, Firefin Snapper, Stonescale Eel, Deviate Fish, and Winter Squid will be the ones for which there is a consistent demand.
#15 Feb 19 2007 at 1:57 PM Rating: Decent
Ok Azwing,
I sold some Raw Sagefish on Horde AH. Didn't get much. Had to run through couple of times. Finally sold 5 for a whopping 10s. I guess not a big need on the Horde side for the fish. I will admit though if you watch and low ball(hate to do but need money) Oilys sell really well. Sold 10 this weekend for 4g.

Firefins are also selling as fast as I can put them in the AH. Sell for anywhere from 5-2g to 10-3g-4g. Although not a big price on the Fires, it is crazy how fast they sell. Almost everytime I put Oilys on I have to put back in at least 2x and low ball someone. The Fires though sell like hotcakes.

I was in Booty this weekend and bought my fishing book and will try next with Eels. I have checked the Horde AH and don't recall ever finding any. So that will be my next fish to tackle. Haven't caught any squid yet either but will try to conquer those next.
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