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#27 Feb 18 2007 at 11:14 AM Rating: Default
Rofl, even if it was his kill, i'd still skin it,he can just kill another. Mining, i take no prisoners, whoever gets their first, wins.
#28 Feb 18 2007 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
You my friend are an ***-hole.
#29 Feb 18 2007 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Early on I used to ask first. The more I played, the more I noticed the difference between folks just grinding (walking in a line killing mobs) and folks who were farming.(killing several mobs in one area and then skinning them all at once)

Now it's rare for me to ask, usually only if the guy is just standing there next to a corpse.

To answer the one post: I actually had someone in Redridge tell me "No u cant." when I asked to skin the black whelp he'd just killed. "Oh sorry, are you a skinner?" I ask. "No u just cnt." Oh really? (skin, skin, skin, you receive medium leather) "Thanks f@cko, preciate it." /salute. I have no patience for jerks. Oh to be on a PVP just then.

In terms of mining, it's a tough call. If the guy's standing right next to a node fighting something I stop and wait to see if he mines it after he's done killing the mob. However, sometimes you just can't tell. The other guy might be 40-50 yards away or fighting a mob at the entrance to a cave or valley with the node down inside. Why would I pst him to ask about the node then? Just so he can say, whether it's true or not, "yeh dat is mine."

Edited, Feb 18th 2007 5:21pm by Lathby

Edited, Feb 18th 2007 5:21pm by Lathby
#30 Feb 18 2007 at 9:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Fromtheshadow wrote:
Rofl, even if it was his kill, i'd still skin it,he can just kill another. Mining, i take no prisoners, whoever gets their first, wins.

This is a very unpopular opinion, and will be rated as such. I was a skinner for a short period of time, and found that occasionally, I'd find someone following me, skinning my kills as I stood up after looting them. When they did not stop, I started killing things that cannot be skinned.
#31 Feb 19 2007 at 12:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Lol, yeah good idea. I second your opinion that is an unpopular opinion.
#32 Feb 19 2007 at 6:08 AM Rating: Decent
I only try to beat people to a node when it's a free node (e.g. herb with no mobs).

Nothing more satisfying than seeying a player running next to you for the herb then smacking on aspect of cheetah and beating him to it =]
#33 Feb 19 2007 at 8:45 AM Rating: Decent
i havent really had much competition with skinning and herbing. currently im in un goro, and theres not much competition, since theres so many skinnable dino's around. the herbing isnt too bad either, i really dont see anyone beating me to an herb, or competing with me for that matter. my skin/herb are both 300 so its not that big of a deal if someone beats me to it. im usually just farming and grinding at the same time anyway.

as for being polite, i dont ask someone to skin their kills. if they leave it behind, i take it. i dont go out of my way to do it though, just if its along the way, i'll skin the leftovers, but i dont hover. once again i grind/farm, so i wanna get my xp too.
#34 Feb 19 2007 at 8:52 AM Rating: Default
To all who said my opinion was unpopular, tough luck. Its your own fault if you aren't fast enough, i don't let people ruin my skilling or profitting just because they are too slow to do so themselves, if you are still against this, go outside, take a look at the real world of trade and economy, then think about it.
#35 Feb 19 2007 at 9:40 AM Rating: Good
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I usually don't ask, but wait to see if they are going to skin them or not. Same for a mine, if someone is fighting next to it, I`ll usually help them with the kills if there's a lot and see if they take it or not.

I had a guy skin something that's mine once, and I skinned his next 3 kills. He left me alone. The worst that happened to me was when leveling a new alt in a newbie area, a lv60 moron started following me, one-shotting everything I attacked, then skinning them. I wasn't skinning those, so I didn't mind but I did mind receiving no XP for any of my kills.... I had to quickly claim as many mobs as I could and leave the unlooted corpses for him to give up.
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#36 Feb 19 2007 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, the REAL world is tough, however, Azeroth is not the real world. If it was, Horde or Alliance, anyone who pissed me off would die a quick, yet painFUL, death.

I'm sorry that you have to be an *** to be able to "make a living"
#37 Feb 19 2007 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
Rofl, go back to your Rp realm, quick and painful death, ha, ha, ha.
#38 Feb 20 2007 at 5:10 AM Rating: Decent
Fromtheshadow wrote:
Rofl, even if it was his kill, i'd still skin it,he can just kill another. Mining, i take no prisoners, whoever gets their first, wins.


must be from blackrock....
#39 Feb 20 2007 at 5:12 AM Rating: Decent
KeyzANGJtoni wrote:
Yes, the REAL world is tough, however, Azeroth is not the real world. If it was, Horde or Alliance, anyone who pissed me off would die a quick, yet painFUL, death.

I'm sorry that you have to be an *** to be able to "make a living"


Yea i know a few "teaM" players i would love to kill
#40 Feb 20 2007 at 8:12 AM Rating: Decent
This is why I loved games like Tibia and shadowbane. Open killing of everyone.

Basicly you knew if ppl were cool by reputation, and if you didnt know them then you just had to watch your back. Group with someone? kk np just be ready for when he turns on you.

The thing is that in those games when you died every thing in your bags dropped on your corpse. So it was common that when someone got a good loot that the group you were leveling with would turn into a FFA brawl as the winner would get to take the loot the entire group had earned. Oh how I miss FFA PvP.

Any way to the point this jack *** with no manners and screaming "thats how it works in real life" would be black listed and PKd at every opportunity.

I just prefer an MMO where the players get to "self police" each other. It also made guilds 10,000 times more important. That way you always had a group of ppl you knew you could trust.
#41 Feb 20 2007 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
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I don't ask to skin but I wait and watch long enough to be sure they aren't planning on skinning it themselves. You can't always ask anyways if the person doing the killing is of the opposing faction.

As far as mines go, I will usually make sure a person killing near a mine isn't going to take it. When I go out just to mine, I usually pick areas where most of the mobs won't aggro on me so there isn't really much of a chance of me ending up clearing mines for others to steal.


The 'bots' are a problem though. When my boyfriend was doing the quests in Shimmering Flats he found a player who would try to skin things that my boyfriend was already skinning. My boyfriend would run over to another player's abandoned skinnable kill and a second later the 'bot' would show up and do the skinning motion. We figured it had to be a 'bot' since an active player would see that there was someone already skinning the corpse and would go to one of the other skinnable corpses lying around. It was annoying but he simply quit looting his kills until he was sure he wasn't going to get adds while he skinned.
#42 Feb 20 2007 at 4:08 PM Rating: Decent
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I dont bother asking when i see dead bodies laying everywhere. IMO they are only laying there because the person who killed them could not skin them.

Like this past week or so I omw to Barrens to do SFK with my Shaman. On my way out there i noticed a bunch of dead animals and started to skin and follow the line. I eventually met up with a lvl 22ish UD priest just mobing away killing things. So i followed him around and after he tagged the mob i would auto attack outta ghost wolf form. I got like 2 stack of light leather and 3 medium leather stacks just waiting for my group to get to the instance.

On the whole herb/mining nodes, if i see someone next to them fighting off the things around it i'll usually just wait and see if they take it. Usually when someone is fighting the things around a particular node that means they are gonna snag it. Cause we have all had a node stolen from under our noses so I try not to do it to others.
#43 Feb 21 2007 at 7:33 AM Rating: Decent
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fledarmus wrote:

Lol - my problem is usually rogues. Whle I'm fighting the mobs next to the nodes, they stealth in and mine the node behind me. Paladins aren't particularly stealthy... <clank, clank, clank>


I second that (pally here too). If they're the other faction it's par for the course, but it kind of sucks the rare time a fellow Alliance does it.

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I think one of my funniest experiences was when I decided as a level 50 that I wanted to mine some rich thorium veins in Un'Goro crater. I did find one, and as I got close to it, I was attacked by a level 56 mob. That fight took over fifteen minutes (all of my damage spells were resisted, so I was reduced to doing melee damage and saving my mana to heal myself), and during that time and undead rogue came up to the node, watched me fight for quite a while, mined out the node, continued watching me fight for a while, /cheered me, then took off, while I was still fighting. I decided to level up some before trying another node in that area.


^_^ Great story.
#44 Feb 21 2007 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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I always wait. I assume that if the other guy is starting to kill another mob, the corpse he left behind becomes free-for-all.

It rarely happens that somebody tries to get one of my nodes, if they do I try to do something "nice" to them, from putting thorns on them if they are a cloth wearer, to bringing a pack of mobs to them and then feigning death / vanishing / ...
#45 Feb 27 2007 at 6:20 AM Rating: Decent
If someone is standing/sitting next to a corpse, I will ask if I may skin. For all I know they might be drinking, talking to someone, checking something on Allah, whatever. Doesn't cost me anything to ask before running up and skinning a critter. Not like there will ever be a critter shortage! :)

However, if they run off to the next critter without skinning (unless they are attacked by something else right away at the previous corpse) then the body is freely skinnable IMO and I don't ask.
#46 Feb 27 2007 at 7:22 AM Rating: Decent
I've never asked to skin someone elses kills. If they are no longer around and there is a trail of dead, skinable beasts I go to work. I just watch people if they are killing and wait to see if they skin them, if not I move in after they've walked well enough away.
#47 Feb 28 2007 at 8:42 AM Rating: Decent
On behalf of rogues everywhere, there are a lot of occasions when I'm heading towards a mine spot in stealth (so that I don't have to fight my way there) and while I'm clearly working my way there, someone else rushes in to kill the things guarding it and take the node. I recognize that they can't see me very effectively, and so I don't get upset, but it's really annoying when it happens.
#48 Mar 01 2007 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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On behalf of rogues everywhere, there are a lot of occasions when I'm heading towards a mine spot in stealth (so that I don't have to fight my way there) and while I'm clearly working my way there, someone else rushes in to kill the things guarding it and take the node. I recognize that they can't see me very effectively, and so I don't get upset, but it's really annoying when it happens.



And on behalf of everyone who can't stealth, it is just as annoying when one is fighting towards a node or herb and a stealthed toon goes by and takes it before the fight is over.

It all balances in the end.

Edited, Mar 1st 2007 12:24pm by hattermf
#49 Mar 01 2007 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
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If you are a skinner, do you ask permission before skinning other ppl's kills?
If you are not a skinner, do you think we should?


As it has been said above i usually waited till they move on to a next combat phase(as in if they were fighting two monsters wait till they kill both then skin as they run away).

This is how i had skilled up my skinning and made some money. A opposite faction player was plowing through all of the beasts(he was a few levels higher by 2-5 levels) and i tagged along and probably got 5 stacks in VERY little time.
#50 Mar 02 2007 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
Following behind non-skinners while they grind is a great way to get skins fast, and most people don't mind you being there. I was once following a grinder who turned to me after about the 20th kill (and my 20th skin) and said

"Hey buddy, if you're going to profit off these animals, you want to at least help me kill them?"

I replied by saying "I will if you want, but you'll get less XP and half the loot."

He agreed it was better to just continue the way we had been going.
#51 Mar 03 2007 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
After reading the forum I actually asked someone if they were in fact a skinner. Turns out they were, we had a long chat and all was cool at the end. Bottom line...If someone's killing in an area asking is better than annoying.
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