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#1 May 02 2006 at 5:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Just a question for a self confessed newb who is trying to make his way in the world.

Is there a guide as to how much dosh you should have at certain levels? I am not trying to keep up with the Jones's but it would be nice to know if I am doing alright, comparitively to other players.

I have just started a new Worrier who is now L15 and sitting on his nest egg of about 10G. Is that about right for that level. How much should I be aiming for at L25 etc...

Also do other people apply real life savings strategies or splurge all their earnings with the best gear available at the AH?
#2 May 02 2006 at 6:28 AM Rating: Decent
10g on your first character at level 15 is impressive. I don't think I broke 10g until I was over 20.

Ideally you want to have the money to purchase your mount about 3/4 levels before you can.

All in all I'd say your doing well.

As for a guide. There are guides, problem is they are incredibly subjective. Don't listen to anyone, there are no sure fire 100% fool proof money making strategies that work for everyone. WoW is just like the real world, its about 40% effort, 10% planning, and 50% pure dumb luck. Being in the right place at the right time to grab a good bit of loot, seeing an under priced item on the AH, etc.

My advice is to look around, see how other people make money, and find what works for you, for your style of play. For example I enjoy playing the AH and trying (and mostly succeeding) to make 50% profit margins, but some people don't enjoy it, or are simply not very good at it. I can't stand farming just for the sake of farming, I've got to have a goal at the end of it, but some people enjoy it, and can make a good living at it.
#3 May 02 2006 at 7:32 AM Rating: Decent
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GeneriKB?s guide to making money from lvl 10

Damn good stuff in that one. 10g at level 15 for a first character is not bad at all. Sounds like you have a basic idea of what to do already.

One other piece of advice: skill up your fishing. When you hit about level 30, go to steamwheedle port in Tanaris at night and fish up some stonescale eels. That can make you anywhere between 10-20g an hour reliably.

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Also do other people apply real life savings strategies or splurge all their earnings with the best gear available at the AH?


Both types of people exist in real life. The difference is that those who splurge are poor. The same applies to the game. While it's a good idea to upgrade your gear every few levels, stick with good greens, don't waste money on blues until you get a bit higher up there. Also, if you don't know already, this site has some great info about static drops from instances. These items can be as good as or better than some of the blues you can buy in the auction house.

For instance: Cruel Barb drops off of the boss in the Deadmines, while Skeletal Club is something you'll likely need to buy off of the AH. Take the time to get a Cruel Barb, and you'll save yourself about 21g88s on average. It might take a few runs, but the practice can only make you better at your class.

Edited, Tue May 2 08:33:56 2006 by Poldaran
#4 May 02 2006 at 6:41 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd agree that 10g at level 15 on your first character is impressive to say the least. My first character was pretty poor until the mid 20s. Then again, I started without being very informed and didn't even find the AH until I was like level 20+ (started as a NE so it wasn't that close hehe). My second "main," the rogue I'm currently playing, had all the gold for his mount by the time he was in the mid 20s and then some. I chose to take up 2 gathering professions on this character, while my first toon had mine/engineering. Crafting professions, though novel, don't usually earn you as much gold as a gathering profession until the higher levels when you get some of the higher level patterns. By that time you've likely already invested 100s of gold into leveling that profession.

I'd personally suggest that you take your time to "pick out" your gear. Don't by any BoE world drop blues until you're in the mid 30s, and only if you determine that the item is either: 1) severly underpriced at the AH or 2) will last you a significant amount of time. You can still get good gear by doing quests and running instances. Running instances is also a lot of fun in most cases and will help you learn your classes roll. Often, the drops that you can obtain from instances, and certain select quest rewards are better than items you can buy off the AH. They take some time to aquire, but you're getting XP and real experience playing your character while you're doing it.

People that splurge in the game are constantly poor. Always think of the marginal upgrade that you get by equipping said item as compared to what you're currently wearing. Do the extra stats really justify the expensive price? Those are questions you should ask yourself. It's perfectly fine to spend the gold on worthwhile items. But getting that sword with an extra 0.5 DPS isn't a good buy in many cases, especially if there's a questable item that you can get in 3 levels which owns it completely and is free. Now once you get towards 60 that all changes. You're going to have your gear for a longer time and will be making more money. It's often a good idea to invest in good gear that you'll use for a while. Then again, always check what's quest/instanceable.

It's also often a good idea to create a bank alt or 2 in order to expand what you can keep "in stock" so to say. These low level characters also make great ways to save money (send your gold to um). I like to keep maybe 100g on my main, and my bank alt gets the rest. Keeps me from blowing my epic mount fund! Money travels through the mail instantly, so you can always send gold instantly between characters if you really "need" it!

Keep up the good work, use the search functions to find weapons/gear (sort by level; search by slot/weapon; take note of no level required stuff from quests at the bottom of the page). You'll be comfortable money wise throughout your travels in Azeroth (did I even spell that right hehe?).
#5 May 03 2006 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
Hmmm i must have had >2g at 10, so good job. As alrady mentioned, certain fish can make a sh'it load of money.
#6 May 10 2006 at 2:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey thanks guys. I appreciate the advise and feedback. I think this is why I like WOW so much.

Much of it was easy. I played a couple of games. Follow the carcass until I reached the killer where I would simply ask him if I could skin any carcasses around him.

Mining, well if it glowed I mined it.

Fishing I have taken your advise. However since you posted about fishing I am about L90 now and can't seem to catch anymore than a cold, or more specifically, anything worth more than copper coins. Do I just keep on trucking on?

On the AH I won't go out and buy the best armour available at my level simply because the stats are slightly better than I have got currently. Initially I stayed on the AH and watched. I read a few forums for advise and asked mates at work etc. I won't profess to say I have mastered it but I would buy bargins where some poor bugger has put an item in the Ah for what seems a steal, even if it is a level or 2 higher than what I can use.

I am seeing also a potential benifit in buying what people are selling in the AH and on-selling for a profit, but I am not sure this is deemed ethical in WOW or even if it would work. But some people seem to put some items into the AH at rediculous prices! In real life I am no entrepreneur, but I mean it's almost an open invitation to take advantage of the situation.

I am glad I understand the basic's in economics I learnt at school as supply and demand are your saviour here. If anyone takes advise from newbies is... check the marktet prices of what you are selling, cause
a) you are selling yourself short $$$.
b) you seem to be bottoming out the market - and everyone suffers

Man after writing this I think I am going to run for Prime Minister.
#7 May 10 2006 at 2:18 AM Rating: Decent
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I see buying and reselling at the AH just like I see stocks in real life: If I know it is worth more that what it is being sold for, I buy it. In both cases it requires you to know what you're buying.

At 90, you should be able to fish up oily blackmouths or firefin snappers. Alliance can go to Menethil Harbor, Horde should have an easy trip to Booty Bay to fish these up. Not the greatest of money, but you should make some. Heck, with baubles, you might even be able to fish off the dock in Steamwheedle in Tanaris, though probably have a high miss rate. When you get a little bit higher in fishing skill, go to Steamwheedle at night and fish for a while. You can make quite a bit fishing up stonescale eels there(I believe in the range of 15-20g an hour).

I'm sure Ohmikeghod knows a little better what fishing level you need there, or perhaps it's in the trade skills sticky.

Oh, and don't worry about keeping up with the Jones...last I heard they went to Stranglethorn and got eaten by some trolls.
#8 May 10 2006 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Fishing I have taken your advise. However since you posted about fishing I am about L90 now and can't seem to catch anymore than a cold, or more specifically, anything worth more than copper coins. Do I just keep on trucking on?


Keep at it. At 225 + lures, you'll be able to catch stonescale eels, which sell for ~1g each. At 90, you may be able to fish for firefin snappers and oily blackmouths, with a lure, around Ratchet. Look for schools of them.

At level 20, deviate fish from the Barrens present little risk of bodily harm. At level 25+, you can make the trek to Steamwheedle for the eels.

Producing something to sell, be it metal bars, leathers, or fish is a foolproof means to make money.

My advice would be to collect some coin, then indulge yourself when you want to. Once you know how to generate revenue (and it sounds like you already do) you can always refill your pockets.

Oh, and since you are fishing, might was well be cooking, too! Those useless fish you're selling for a handful of copper could, instead, be used to skill your cooking. Why cooking? Well, who doesn't like extra stamina, spirit, agility, or the like? If you're still just selling the fish, they're worth a lot more cooked than they are raw.
#9 May 10 2006 at 6:08 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm sure Ohmikeghod knows a little better what fishing level you need there, or perhaps it's in the trade skills sticky.
I usuall don't get to Tanaris until I'm in the mid-to-late 20's in level. I've noticed that at 230 (no lures and a +5 pole) I get a lot of "fish got away!" notices, but with a +75 lure, I get very few. My guess is that if you can get up to around 250 with lures, you won't have much trouble catching eels. Fishing buddy tells me that eels run about 10% of the catch at Tanaris, so you have to make a lot of casts to get a stack. On my current server, the war effort is still going on, so I'm also making money from Spotted Yellowtail (about 50% of the catch).
#10 May 11 2006 at 4:05 AM Rating: Decent
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ohmikeghod wrote:
I usuall don't get to Tanaris until I'm in the mid-to-late 20's in level. I've noticed that at 230 (no lures and a +5 pole) I get a lot of "fish got away!" notices, but with a +75 lure, I get very few. My guess is that if you can get up to around 250 with lures, you won't have much trouble catching eels. Fishing buddy tells me that eels run about 10% of the catch at Tanaris, so you have to make a lot of casts to get a stack. On my current server, the war effort is still going on, so I'm also making money from Spotted Yellowtail (about 50% of the catch).



See, I knew that he would know.

Oh, and I guess I should check into fishing buddy.
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