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#1 Mar 09 2006 at 4:41 AM Rating: Decent
I see that some people say that its best to wait with enchanting till you're a higher lvl. Why is that?...
#2 Mar 09 2006 at 4:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I took enchanting and tailoring from the start, and I'm personally seeing an artificial cap where it's difficult for me to obtain all the materials I need to level either skill.

Most people wait on enchanting so they can solo run low level instances like Ragefire Chasm or the Deadmines, as well as some slightly higher ones for lots of greens to disenchant.

I've already reached over 175 in enchanting and tailoring though, so I refuse to drop either for the time being. If I have to make a gatherer character, it's probably going to be a druid.
#3 Mar 09 2006 at 5:13 AM Rating: Decent
Ok i See... I have allready chosen enchanting/tailoring. But i'm only lvl 10, so i guess i'll change it. Did some more reading on older posts, and i think i'm convinced. :)

I'm a druid. Do you think its good to just stick with gathering skills for the time being. Or is it a profession that is good for druids. Like leatherworking? I really don't want to end up not having money to buy a mount when the time comes, so it can't cost to much....

Thanks for the reply btw. :)
#4 Mar 09 2006 at 12:17 PM Rating: Default
druids are ****** gatherers go with a frost mage AE grinding spec. and you can solo 10+ mobs at the same time. and give it stuff from your tailor too ( go mining/eng as the bombs will save your *** if you get a bunch of F Nova resists
#5 Mar 09 2006 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Nice to see EvilShenanigans spreading disinfromaion, No mage can stealth to the eazy bosses in a instance, kill and nuke like a druid. Just ignore him, he is what I like to call "Flame Bate".
#6 Mar 09 2006 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good
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I agree, Evil is full of it. And I'm an AoE-specced level 60 Frost Mage :-P There's a lot of stuff I wouldn't dream of touching that a Druid can take, no problem.

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I see that some people say that its best to wait with enchanting till you're a higher lvl. Why is that?...


There are a few reasons people wait.

1. No gold leveling up. If you have tailoring and enchanting, that means you are not selling item drops nor cloth. Furthermore, you are buying threads and other materials for tailoring. This makes your net income very very small. Costs are tough, and if you need to grind money, you can't really use your professions to help. Most people hold off on enchanting until at least level 40, after they have a mount and (possibly) new abilities and armor types.

2. At level 60, getting the initial materials is ridiculously easy. You should have no problem clearing up through BFD on a level 60 toon, and the loot from those instances will carry you into at least 150 enchanting with zero costs for you (besides time). If you're good and have the right class, you can go through SM to take your enchanting even higher. After that point, it gets more difficult to solo instances, especially the bosses. But your enchanting should already be up over 150, and you'll have spent very little money.

Another reason to wait for a high level is available materials. A high level can go on instance runs to get level 50+ BoE drops (or worthless BoP drops) to disenchant, rather than buying them off the AH.

Also, you can only get to level 300 enchanting after you are level 35. Another reason to wait.

Finally, the best recipes for enchanting are drops. If you cannot go on the runs, you will NOT get these recipes. They will go to someone who actually contributes on the run in your guild. A low level enchanter will be far down on the guild list for enchanting recipes.

Oh, one more. At level 60, it is a lot easier to make a lot more money quickly than at a lower level. Clearing 20-30 gold an hour is not difficult. This way, at level 60, you can more easily buy recipes and materials than at a lower level.


Yeah, those are the reasons. I think enchanting is great for you right now, but use it like a gathering skill; disenchant and sell the items for money to buy what you need until you are a high level. Then again, I have only made it to 170 enchanting before dropping it; what do I know?

If you do not have the Enchantrix add-on, or another similar to it, and are browsing the AH to find cheap items to disenchant... drop enchanting right now. Enchantrix, or a similar add-on, is the key to making the moo-lah with disenchanting.
#7 Apr 01 2006 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
O.k., so I am/was doing enchant/tailoring as well. I'm almost lvl 8 and already have tailoring. I wouldn't mind keeping it. Should I pick up another skill so I'm using two until I get to 30ish level so I can use two skills then drop it/one of them and take Enchanting? If so, which skill and why would 'you' the veterans recommend?
#8 Apr 02 2006 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
I made my first character with enchanting the other day. From what I've been reading and hearing from others, enchanting is an expensive profession since you're disenchating items rather than selling or vendoring them. So what I'm doing is sending all the low-level stuff my main character is getting to my alt, who's the enchanter. Otherwise, if it weren't for that, I wouldn't have picked enchanting.
#9 Apr 03 2006 at 4:45 AM Rating: Decent
Enchanting ain't gonna make you any money for a while. You'll spend so much more than you've made.

It's really just a money issue
#10 Apr 04 2006 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
K I just have to disagree with most of you out there that say enchanting is too taxing on money and you can't make any money with it. I'm an Elf/Rogue with Herb/enchanting right now. I lvl'd most of my enchanting while making money. and I'll share a little secret with you all. Lesser/Greater magic essence easiest way to lvl up. Make lesser mystic wands and Greater mystic wands. Lesser sell for something like 5 Silver and greater mystic wands sell to vendors for 15 silver each. So I bought/ still by my Greater magic essence for 1 - 1.25 gold/per stack of 10. craft it into greater mystic wands and sell each for 15 silver = 1.5 gold. It's not a lot of money for high lvl players, but for a low lvl player making an easy 5 minute 50 silver profit + lvling up enchanting it's one of the best. So everyday I just check the Auction house for Greater magic essence and buyout all the stacks 1.25g or less. Easy money :) Just a little FYI and I'm sure there are others like that + enchanting other peoples things for 1g is easy money :) for low lvls.
#11 Apr 05 2006 at 7:33 AM Rating: Decent
ya enchantign always leaves me broke and stuff plus its hare to make money off of it until ur a higher level
#12 Apr 05 2006 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Clearing 20-30 gold an hour is not difficult.


I must be doing something wrong. I have four level 60 characters and I couldn’t make anywhere near that kind of gold if my characters lives depended on it.

For those wondering what professions to take with their first characters, I’d break it down like this. If you enjoy crafting then choose a gathering profession and a production profession. For example: skinning and leatherworking, mining and engineering or herbalism and alchemy. This will allow you to make money with your gathering profession and still enjoy crafting items with your production profession.

But if you don’t particularly care for crafting and you mainly want to use your professions to make money, then take two gathering professions. Traditionally, that would be either skinning and mining or skinning and herbalism. Most people don’t take mining and herbalism because both these professions use the mini map to point you in the right direction, but only one can be active at a time. So you either search for only minerals or only herbs or you end up doing a lot of button pushing to switch between the two.

Enchanting can also be used as a gathering profession. In this cast you only need to have the skill, no leveling required. You’ll be able to disenchant any piece of magical equipment you have, whether just looted or old gear you no longer need, and sell the dust and such on the auction house.
#13 Apr 05 2006 at 3:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Another reason people wait til later levels to learn enchanting, is that while you can get a few skillups by DEing items(up to like 50 skill in enchanting) the materials you recieve are worth less than just vendoring the items in the first place. If the item would sell at the AH, it is even more money you wasted. This holds true for most all items until around level 40 greens, when the mats start making you about the same amount of money as vendoring the item would.
At higher levels(50+) items start makeing you more money by DEing them. A good way to make money for "power leveling" enchanting at later levels, is to buy low cost greens for the AH. Use these mats in enchanting for skillups, and sell the extra mats to buy more trash greens. Rinse and repeat, til lvl 300.
You really won't sell to many enchants for a profit until later in the game. If you are very lucky, you can make a very small profit, for alot of time invested, before you reach about 225 enchanting. That is around where you start to learn the glow effects enchants that most people want.
Early level enchanting can be done, just realize that for 99% of the people that try it, they make little to no money.
50s for 5 minutes? A herbalish makes that at lvl 40 just by picking a single herb. Dreamfoil on my server is around 1G per. The grass is always greener...
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