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#1 Oct 19 2005 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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I recently raised my blacksmith to 155 to be able to make myself some great mid-20's armor. Looking at the plans in the blacksmith 100s and comparing them to the AH, it looks like I would make less money selling blacksmith items than I would selling the raw materials needed to make them.

A great example is the first blue item smithies can make: Shining Silver Breastplate. On my server, there were three for sale for 3.5g. The metal alone, if sold in ore form, would go for 2.8g (6s for each copper and tin, 10s for each silver).

Am I missing something or do I have to wait until my blacksmith skill is over 200 before I start seeing a profit?

Volpone
#2 Oct 19 2005 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
I haven't yet found anything as profitable as selling raw materials, perhaps disenchanting can be one, but i haven't tried it yet. Blacksmithing and leatherworking won't make you any good gold compared to selling the materials, no matter if you get to skill 300.
#3 Oct 19 2005 at 10:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Am I missing something or do I have to wait until my blacksmith skill is over 200 before I start seeing a profit?

Volpone


Na you dont have to wait till 200 to see a profit, it is HIGHER!

Remember Mats have more value than finished product, In their raw form, ore and stone can be any BS or engenering item(verry usefull to meny pepole on your server) but as soon as you leach the skill adds out of it and change it in to a 2 handed soward or a pice of armor,it has just become useless to other smiths or engeneiers, as well as to every class that cant use said item(IE. a Mage has no intrest in the new mail chestpice you just made, but sure could have used the mats to make some engenering items, or the mats for a rod,for enchanting). Lastly it is foolish to base your pricing structure off of AH selling price for mats, The prices are inflated!,folks use the AH to make a proffit, not so that somebody else can. Their is no room for both, sure some items sell well and can even have their mats pruchased off the AH, crafted and reposted for a proffit(leatehrworking's Hillmans cloke, or Nightscape headband are a few examples) but usualy the items that sell either need a speical set of plans that are a drop and not a trained one, and are not effective at leveling your trade. you cant have your cake and eat it too, it is one or the other, either get your BS skill up to 300 or trun a proffit off folks that dont want to mine to rasie their skill.
#4 Oct 20 2005 at 12:39 PM Rating: Default
To be honest, each profession basically has a handful of items that are indeed profitable. The alternative is to farm your own mats, but in the end you will still make more from selling the mats rather than crafting them. The trick is to find your profession's niche items, and exploit them. I recently saw a chromatic cloak on sale in the AH for 800g. However, someone in my guild had the recipe so I figured I'd farm my own mats. Cost me 680g for raw mats. So in the end, the person who sold the initial cloak on AH had to first invest almost 90% of his own money to make just over a 10% profit. But, the damn cloak will sell because it is rare and in high demand. Lower level items are usually not as in demand, and are pretty much for skillups only. There are exceptions, swiftness potions as an example, but the price of the recipe alone signifies that everyone alredy knows this. If anything, get to 300 first so you have a wide range of options, and then analyze your server's market and pick the right items.
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