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I recently took up enchanting yesterday, and now have it at i think 130. my problem is getting the supplies to enchant things. im not sure where to get astral essence or what to disenchant it from, and small brilliant shards are just too hard to get beacause i need to sell most blue items i find cause im saving for my mount. I know this just sounds like im complaining about it being a hard profession (which i am), but i really just wanted to know what types of items u can get small brilliant shards from and where i can get astral essence from.(BTW im a level 33 mage on bonechewer, other profession is herbalism)
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From personal experience, the solution to enchanting is always to have a higher alt with a crafting skill of some kind so you can provide an almost unlimtited supply of greens for your enchanter. I can't imagine the horror of doing enchanting on a "first" toon. Tailors and Leatherworkers have the easiest go of it for makine supplies. With those two proffs, it's kinda hard to go from one place to another in your normal travels without finding an opportunity to gather enchanting supplies. With skinning, you are guaranteed an enchanting component with every beast kill. Camp up some leather, make some greens, mail them to enchater alt and D/E them. When my enchanter hit level 20, I was able to farm enough stuff with the leatherworker in under a day to go from 150-225. About 2.5 hours of actual leather camping did it.
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Specifically about where to get astral essence, I have found that with my warlock who is also a Tailor/Enchanter, disenchanting Azure silk vests that I tailor up seem to frequently disenchant to astral essence.
It's weird because I actually made a bunch of these to skill up my tailoring, and didn't want to just vendor them all off, so I disenchanted them. Like I say, they disenchanted to astral essence almost every time.
Hope this helps.
It's weird because I actually made a bunch of these to skill up my tailoring, and didn't want to just vendor them all off, so I disenchanted them. Like I say, they disenchanted to astral essence almost every time.
Hope this helps.
Enchanting supplies come from Dis-Enchanting green or better quality armor/weapons(feel the irony).
Generally the dust is from armor and the essence is from weapons, though it can randomly be anything
Level 1-10: A little strange dust/lesser magic essence.
Level 11-15: Much strange dust/greater magic essence.
Level 16-20: Much strange dust/lesser astral essence.
Level 21-25: Little soul dust/greater astral essence.
Level 26-30: Much soul dust/lesser mystic essence.
Level 31-35: Little vision dust/greater mystic essence.
Level 36-40: Much soul dust/lesser nether essence.
Level 41-45: Little dream dust/greater nether essence.
Level 46-50: Much dream dust/lesser eternal essence.
Level 51-55: Little illusion dust/greater eternal essence
Level 56-60: Much illusion dust/greater eternal essence
Shards:
Shards come from blue / purple items (they can come from greens, but dont count on it, about a 5% chance)
Level 1-20: Small glimmering
Level 21-25: Large glimmering
Level 26-30: Small glowing
Level 31-35: Large glowing
Level 36-40: Small radiant
Level 41-45: Large radiant
Level 46-50: Small brilliant
Level 51-60: Large brilliant
WWW.THOTTBOT.COM and you can lookup a specific item and see what it will DE into(Warming: not always correct!). Also a great addon for enchanters is the "ENCHANTRIX" mod.
http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=147
I personally would never take enchanting as a profession until later levels(took me 1 day (lvl60 toon) to skill up to 300) . At low levels the enchants just don't sell, so you will be burning all your spare cash trying to skillup. I saved some money from my first profession (Skinning) and used this to level Enchanting. Did a few low level instance runs that produced enuff mats to level to 200 Enchanting. Finished leveling enchanting to 300 by making tailoring items to DE and using these mats.
Generally the dust is from armor and the essence is from weapons, though it can randomly be anything
Level 1-10: A little strange dust/lesser magic essence.
Level 11-15: Much strange dust/greater magic essence.
Level 16-20: Much strange dust/lesser astral essence.
Level 21-25: Little soul dust/greater astral essence.
Level 26-30: Much soul dust/lesser mystic essence.
Level 31-35: Little vision dust/greater mystic essence.
Level 36-40: Much soul dust/lesser nether essence.
Level 41-45: Little dream dust/greater nether essence.
Level 46-50: Much dream dust/lesser eternal essence.
Level 51-55: Little illusion dust/greater eternal essence
Level 56-60: Much illusion dust/greater eternal essence
Shards:
Shards come from blue / purple items (they can come from greens, but dont count on it, about a 5% chance)
Level 1-20: Small glimmering
Level 21-25: Large glimmering
Level 26-30: Small glowing
Level 31-35: Large glowing
Level 36-40: Small radiant
Level 41-45: Large radiant
Level 46-50: Small brilliant
Level 51-60: Large brilliant
WWW.THOTTBOT.COM and you can lookup a specific item and see what it will DE into(Warming: not always correct!). Also a great addon for enchanters is the "ENCHANTRIX" mod.
http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=147
I personally would never take enchanting as a profession until later levels(took me 1 day (lvl60 toon) to skill up to 300) . At low levels the enchants just don't sell, so you will be burning all your spare cash trying to skillup. I saved some money from my first profession (Skinning) and used this to level Enchanting. Did a few low level instance runs that produced enuff mats to level to 200 Enchanting. Finished leveling enchanting to 300 by making tailoring items to DE and using these mats.
You could solo instances like Wailing Caverns at your level. Being a high level , you can skip the mobs and just go straight for the bosses. They drop often drop 'blue' BOPU (bind on pick up) items, which you can disenchant to get materials.
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I'm just starting off in Enchanting. This is my first toon and I've only been playing for about a week so I'm sort of lost-ish. I switched skill combos from Herbalism and Skinning to Enchanting and Skinning, thinking that they would match better. But like i said I'm pretty lost. How do I raise my enchanting level so that I can utilize the pelts and such that I skin form my kills? I've got a lvl 16 toon at lvl 3 in enchanting. I can't even get the most basic of training yet. lol. Pretty pitiful, I know, but I don't know how to raise it at all. Be nice, and help please? lol. thanks.
Edited, Fri Sep 2 00:26:10 2005 by Kemyntari
Edited, Fri Sep 2 00:26:10 2005 by Kemyntari
I've started enchanting and tailoring on my 1st character. It's not 'horrors', per se, but it is a bit hard to level. Try just disenchanting every green you don't want rather than auctioning it. Sell the materials on the auction house. This will get you to about 60 skill level (the cap for disenchanting). At this point, learn the trade up to 150 cap. Buy a few recipes that are desired highly: mostly plus agility and beastslaying. I made 60s pure profit off one beastslaying, and I bought mats from AH (which I shouldn't do but I had no low level cloths on hand to make lvl 10 crappy greens from tailoring). Most people don't want to buy enchants at low levels though-target hunters and rogues, they seem to like glows and they REALLY like agility.
Astral essences come off most of the azure silk items from tailoring, but my drop rate has only been 20-30%, so I don't recommend it for developing essences. However, at low enchanting levels, you can make the item, disenchant for 1 skillup, and then use the greater essence to make 3 enchants later (I forget which one, it's on cloaks and it costs one lesser astral).
Never use shards for enchanting at low levels-you can sell for gold, and the disenchanting of a blue item was never worth one measly low level enchant-stick with greens and make what you can from there until you actually need the shards for relatively good enchants.
Astral essences come off most of the azure silk items from tailoring, but my drop rate has only been 20-30%, so I don't recommend it for developing essences. However, at low enchanting levels, you can make the item, disenchant for 1 skillup, and then use the greater essence to make 3 enchants later (I forget which one, it's on cloaks and it costs one lesser astral).
Never use shards for enchanting at low levels-you can sell for gold, and the disenchanting of a blue item was never worth one measly low level enchant-stick with greens and make what you can from there until you actually need the shards for relatively good enchants.
im at lvl 240 enchanting and to be honest, i hardly used any 'shards', small or large. the reason is i mostly choose the enchants which require dusts and essences.
i can easily see getting to higher level enchanting on more enchants which use mainly more dusts and essences.
Enchanting/Tailoring is a quick way to level Enchanting from what I have experienced so far.
You can make White/Red robes (green chest item) at a low tailor level and enchant it (level up), then disenchant (level up) and get your mats (sometimes x2) back. This gets even "cheaper" when you get Blue Linen Vest http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?wspell=7630, its a low bolt quantity you only need one dye and one course thread.
You can make White/Red robes (green chest item) at a low tailor level and enchant it (level up), then disenchant (level up) and get your mats (sometimes x2) back. This gets even "cheaper" when you get Blue Linen Vest http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?wspell=7630, its a low bolt quantity you only need one dye and one course thread.
I've disecnhanted EVERY green I've gotten with the exception of maybe 20 items from level 1 to 45, as well as most of my blue drops/quest rewards as long as I didn't need to cash right atm, or I knew the drop would sell well. I've got about 100 gold in enchanting mats in my bank, including a stack of Greater Astral, 2 stacks of Greater Mystic, and around 15 stacks combined of Soul and Vision Dust, plus a few shards that I've never used and am kinda just waiting to use them until I need them for a few higher enchants. I would say the best way to level up is to sell cheap (or even give away) enchants that you hav elots of mats for. Ig you're hgih enough (probably around 45, maybe as low as 40, depending on your class and how well you play) solo run SM Graveyard for greens and the guarnteed shard from the boss.
I would highly recommend getting the Enchantrix mod as an enchanter. Tells you the % of each possible DE from that item and its approx. value.
Kemyntari, you won't be able to use those pelts with Enchanting. The stuff you get from skinning can be sold on the AH for use by leatherworkers (as well as the occassional engineering, blacksmithing, or tailoring recipe).
I would highly recommend getting the Enchantrix mod as an enchanter. Tells you the % of each possible DE from that item and its approx. value.
Kemyntari, you won't be able to use those pelts with Enchanting. The stuff you get from skinning can be sold on the AH for use by leatherworkers (as well as the occassional engineering, blacksmithing, or tailoring recipe).
like isfreak said, my primary desire was to level up in enchanting. i could have done it to my own gear over and over again but i thought, what's the use of that? if im not going to get money for it, might as well give it out to others. especially when you have a lot of dusts, it gets to the point where you dont think of it as money, you just think of it as needing to clear out inventory.
this works fine imo, and without spending time in a big town waiting for people to want an enchant, i can go out to some smaller town and just give away enchants.
this will mainly be desireable if you dont need the money from enchanting right away..and you can wait till the 250-300 range to start recouping some money back.
Bluegayle, The only problem with that is you tend to teach other people bad habits/ideas about enchanting! Nothing like having people coming to you for free enchants! Hey, I got xxx enchant for free why won't you give me crusader for free!! Everyone knows enchanters are so rich you can give away enchants!
On the other hand giving free enchants to friends or guildies, is a great idea! Even free enchants for people that you have grouped with and like how they helped support the group. My guild actually, for the most part, can to me with all mats needed for thier enchants!! I have given away tons of enchants for free, but I always have a good idea about how they play. I will never enchant a "gold-farmer" if I know who he is. Another point is to tell them why you are giving the enchants away and what it is costing you to do so. Hey, I want to enchant xxx on you for a skill-up and I am willing to supply 2G worth of mats to you cause it will advance my enchanting profession and help you. People will remember you and the good ones will come back to help you out later.
Also I see Tailoring popping up alot in enchanting guildes. I believe leather-working(LW) is actually a much better support profession for enchanting. I noticed that tailoring starts to use more and more hard to get mats as the levels increase. As a 300 LW, I can make items for 1.5G(no special mats) that(20% chance) will Dis-Enchanting to 12G worth of mats! The other 80% of the time I break even(40%) or double(40%) my investment. Yes, I could be ubber rich if that was my actual goal, but I'm having to much fun actually running instances and finding new stuff to bother producing cash! ;)
On the other hand giving free enchants to friends or guildies, is a great idea! Even free enchants for people that you have grouped with and like how they helped support the group. My guild actually, for the most part, can to me with all mats needed for thier enchants!! I have given away tons of enchants for free, but I always have a good idea about how they play. I will never enchant a "gold-farmer" if I know who he is. Another point is to tell them why you are giving the enchants away and what it is costing you to do so. Hey, I want to enchant xxx on you for a skill-up and I am willing to supply 2G worth of mats to you cause it will advance my enchanting profession and help you. People will remember you and the good ones will come back to help you out later.
Also I see Tailoring popping up alot in enchanting guildes. I believe leather-working(LW) is actually a much better support profession for enchanting. I noticed that tailoring starts to use more and more hard to get mats as the levels increase. As a 300 LW, I can make items for 1.5G(no special mats) that(20% chance) will Dis-Enchanting to 12G worth of mats! The other 80% of the time I break even(40%) or double(40%) my investment. Yes, I could be ubber rich if that was my actual goal, but I'm having to much fun actually running instances and finding new stuff to bother producing cash! ;)
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solo run SM Graveyard for greens and the guarnteed shard from the boss.
Unfortunatley, it isn't a guranteed shard as the boss also drops a 'green' cloth mantle which doesn't give a shard (in most cases).
I have found a rare spawn (fallen warrior or something) on the right side of the graveyard as you enter, who dropped a nice pair of gloves which I got a shard from.
To be honest though, I rarely do enchants that use shards as I prefer to sell them.
fallen cmapion I love him so easy to kill for a lev 38 rogue I just use evasion lol but to help me chanter what I did was on my rogue ran through fargodeep mine got 100 linen and sent it to hera dn leveled enchaning and tailoring.
FX below is totaly right. Farm with your main, DE with your alt/enchanter. I have a 60 Lock who farmed greens for my 20 Enchanter. Everything that my main got that dosn't sell on the AH is sent to my alt. My alt DE's the stuff. For the first while, you will level your enchanting by DEing items, and by the time you start getting up in level, you have a huge supply of mats just sitting there. So you get the formulas and use those mats to level more. Once you get a little higher, get a few popular enchant like Firey and offer to enchant "free with mats". Next thing ya know, your level 300. I've done basicly the same with another 60, just DEing and using the mats to level. Made it to 300 in no time. Another hint is to get Enchated leather/thorium asap. Once you do you can pick up the mats often cheap on the AH. Make the Enchanted Leather and Thorium, level by doing so, and make few g's on the AH. Enchantrix is real handy to find out what will DE into what. Very handy when you start needing particular mats.
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I really don't want to spend the time and effort to level up my enchant skill, so that I can enchant my own stuff. But what about the idea of just having enchant to dishenchant, then paying someone else a small fee to enchant my items. I figure it would be a lot cheaper since I can DE for my own mats.
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