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I dunno who knows me in Shiva or who doesnt. Ive been playing for about 10 months now. I was welcomed into an LS when i first got here RedRose. I met many good people i called friends. I got close to these people and spent all my time w/ them they were my family to me on Shiva. The Ls leader wasnt on for a long time and many problems started happening. My friends were leaving. I didnt want this to happen so i took it upon myself to create BlackRoseDynasty. My number one goal was to be able to provide a place for my friends and friends of there friends. Ive made endless sacrifices being Lder of BRD. I devoted myself to my friends helping them and being there for them in anyway i could. It was always 70-80 percent my shell/20-30 percent for me. I always wanted todo endgame during this time. To see what it was like to try and better myself. For me that was impossible i was dedicated to my shell to my members. Almost all endgame shells u need to be fulltime. Later within the months my members begin getting higher lvl and wanting the same thing. I didnt know much of anything about endgame stuff. I decided i wanted to be able to offer this to my members and myself, so that we could stay together and not move on to other shells. I did endless amounts of stuff offline as well as online. Studying, printing out maps, learning ways ingame, just the works. I was dealing w/ so much by myself already with leading BRD and now Endgame. Ive worked so hard and put everything i had into BRD and now... I feel alone. I feel that all that i have done people could care less about, they dont even understand the things ive gone through for the shell. People that should be there for each other arent. They had an incident w/ someone named Aryun recently who's got booted from BRD for acting and doing what she does. She goes around shouting lies and mocking me in Whitegate and Jeuno. I heard things from people about what she says and im so ashamed, and people just laugh at me. That all the things ive ever done. The dedication, the sacrifices, the burden, the pressure ive gone through for my members and others. I dont here of anyone standing up for me. It hurts me greatly and i dont feel i deserve this. People are cruel and treat others horribley. Only looking out for themselves. Im to the point now where is there a such thing called a Friend on Shiva, do people truely know what it means to be one. I'm sorry i just wanted to vent. I figured hey what the hey cant get hurt anymore than what i am now if this gets flamed or whatnot. Im just lost right now, in a million pieces, and expected so much more from people.


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Demetriadacat

Wow, Dem, I'm really sorry to hear that. :( I think a lot of us know how much work can go into being a leader of a LS. I've always recommended BRD (and EchoDragon) alongside FableUnity as good social LSes from the many great things I always hear, so it saddens me a little to know you have your own struggles.

Just know that, yes, there are good people out there. People that care. If you ever need a friendly ear, you can always feel free to contact me in game (/tell Bartholomew) or by PM.

Best of luck to you,

Dem,
I know how hard it is to use your time as a LS leader and that all you want to do is play and do end game activitys, at times I feel the same way.I had to eventually go to HFA for endgame activitys. But Its times like these that U need support and friends to talk to. I believe everyone who has been a LS leader or is a LS leader now goes through this.Any LS that is friends with Fable Unity, Carpe Noctem, or HFA is friends of mine.
As for the goofy thats talking trash in Jeuno. If people are going to be like that then they do not deserve your time and is probility someone who you dont want to be associated within a MMO enviroment. I agree that it is not fair that people stand in Jeuno and talk trash but I will almost gaurantee you this, actions speak louder than words.

Good luck and you have my support.

I'm sorry for your troubles, Dem.. I've heard of your LS, and never something bad of it. Let the person shout, as said, actions will speak louder than words.. They will get over it, and it will blow over.

Don't overburden yourself either.. As a leader, you don't have to do everything.. Ask for help, advice, ect of your fellow members, or friends. There is no shame in wanting/needing help. This game is based around help.

Oh, and violence solves nothing.. Brutality solves all. :D

~Nieko

Dem,
If U need help just ask

If everyone went by hear-say like you did, and not get to know the person, we'd all be a buncha raving ********.

Though I won't deny being one at times..

But you, my good Sir/Madam, whichever you may be, are 10x worse than she would be for posting your flame here..

You partied a few times with her? Good for you. I don't know about you, or many others, but I'm 10x more serious in a party than I am outside of one. You didn't even give the respect of saying how she was annoying, just that she is..

Have you ever led a LS? I have co-lead one before, and despite your third party stories, it's hard to get help when you're a leader or co-leader, because you put others before yourself, to benefit your LS you're trying to build. You want to make the members happy, and do things for them to show them you are worthy of leading, and that you won't just rip them off and break the shell.

You don't have to like the leader to be in a shell.. A good percentage of the time, I find people stay mostly because of other people, or friends, in the LS, not because of the leader.

Basically; we all need help, leader or not, it will never matter. We all need to vent, ask for advice from others, ect.. Your flame is 100% not needed. Take it elsewhere, show your name when you flame, and have legit reasons.. Not because of what you hear, but because of your own experience.

Good day.

~Nieko

Sophus is gonna have your head for that...

Nah, he and I both agree that a lot of people simply can't or won't leave behind their conceptions about what a LS "should be", and so FU isn't right for everyone. We've never claimed our way was the only way; it's just the FU way. For those looking for something different, both BRD and EchoDragon are great alternatives.

Okay NOW I read it all...was hard but I got it done.

As has been said before...there are TWO sides to any story. So until I hear of these people talking about you...I can't come to a conclusion =[

In all actuallity I don't see how leading a social ls is all that difficult...end game ls maybe. You said you're starting to move to end game, maybe the events you're starting are getting to you. I would like to know what it is you're doing that's end game. Maybe then you can get advice from people here and not just guides.

But this bothers me. when a game no longer gets fun...and if its even causing you to break down, why not just take a break? Just my advice since if I found myself turning emo over a game then...uhm.

people also have to stop giving credit to sock account, you go minitaru with your impressive 1 count post...

For what it's worth...if it were that easy, everyone would be doing it. Anyone can make a linkshell. Not everyone can make it last.

Very much indeed..

Sophus' idea of a LS inspired me since I first heard of it..

I had just left Avatar (Sanoshin's LS) as one of his top 2 co-leaders, due to a situation of false accusations he did to me.. I helped build the LS and all, helped run it, too.

I was in Buburimu Peninsula hanging out, looking to get Onzozo map.. Sophus was fishing, and had seen me before, and asked if I wanted a new, fresh start.. I explained my situation, and he explained the LS.

Upon putting the pearl on, I was almost instantly greeted with FU's from all, and it was a nice feeling to be welcomed.

After a few months of being in the LS, I found my welcomes more.. How to say.. Sincere, like people were actually happy to see me on, which I'd assume it was true. :P

I'm now a sackholder in FU, and I spout off the ideas to everyone, including my friends.. Not to promote the LS, but because I actually put my belief in them..

A game is always a game, indeed, but you need a group you enjoy to make the best of it.. I help fellow members (read: members, no one is below me, not even as a sack) every day I'm on. I don't do this to get help.. Hell, I barely ever even ask for help..

Sure, this is a life story, but though Sophus doesn't consider himself THE leader, his thoughts went into the shell, and the community of it, itself.

Many people will give up on the first big disrupts, but true leaders can rebuild from it, and ask for help in doing so, that way all feel welcome..

So, in that case, it takes a trust worthy, hard working person to do this. Which many can be trusted, but most do not put forth the hard work themselves..

So I think that statement was false about leading a social shell.. I'd say it is VERY difficult..

PS: Sophus, don't get big-headed.. I shall still put you in a retirement home yet..

~Nieko