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#77 Sep 12 2005 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
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what ?? You mean you aren't allowed to level high than camp something to make money??? The nerve..

Go do your farming day in day out so i can ppoint at you and yell GILSELLER!!

Grow up people. Everyone whos anon and camps a NM = gilseller.. thats a great mentality and stereotype, All who post on these boards are morons. EVEN YOU Gilsellers.


well i dont know how long youve been playing on shiva or ff11 for but i would of thought youd know how gillsellers camp NMs, you took what i said the wrong way do normal ppl farming NMs try mpking ppl when they loose pull on NMs? also i dont really care what you have to say nuzin as you dont even know gillsellers when your mining next to them or talking to them.

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i used to camp emp day in and day out while /anon so i guess im a gilseller huh? wow u guys know me better than me
not every who camps is a gilseller...


theres a big diffrence you and a gillseller you go off and lvl
using the gill you made where as the gillsellers just keep it and sell it on the net.

Edited, Mon Sep 12 17:21:45 2005 by revoninuk
#78 Sep 13 2005 at 7:45 AM Rating: Good
Diony wrote:
Ive invited 3 people to my ls together at like the same time. And for a whle ive noticed something odd.... They were always together in the same pty, never talk, lvled at a incredible rate (11-19 overnight) have lvl 1 sub-jobs which are sorta useless to their main job (like 20 whm / 1 mnk) and ive heard a simular story in this thread.... So does that mean what i think it means?...


EDIT: And i cant beleive what has happened to this thread....

/em is referring to second page

Edited, Sun Sep 11 01:06:07 2005 by Diony


I dont know if you guys know .. so keep it a secret ok.

ut you can level from 11-20 in korroloka Tunnel in bout 3 hours or less.
#79 Sep 13 2005 at 7:56 AM Rating: Good
revoninuk wrote:
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what ?? You mean you aren't allowed to level high than camp something to make money??? The nerve..

Go do your farming day in day out so i can ppoint at you and yell GILSELLER!!

Grow up people. Everyone whos anon and camps a NM = gilseller.. thats a great mentality and stereotype, All who post on these boards are morons. EVEN YOU Gilsellers.


well i dont know how long youve been playing on shiva or ff11 for but i would of thought youd know how gillsellers camp NMs, you took what i said the wrong way do normal ppl farming NMs try mpking ppl when they loose pull on NMs? also i dont really care what you have to say nuzin as you dont even know gillsellers when your mining next to them or talking to them.

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i used to camp emp day in and day out while /anon so i guess im a gilseller huh? wow u guys know me better than me
not every who camps is a gilseller...


theres a big diffrence you and a gillseller you go off and lvl
using the gill you made where as the gillsellers just keep it and sell it on the net.

Edited, Mon Sep 12 17:21:45 2005 by revoninuk


Ive been playing since beta then NA release and shiva for long enough, How come I never have a problem with campin NM's and farming? Don't you have better things to talk about? Like hey, i ran into that new shadow NM in krotchstamp higlands and it pwned me, or wheeeeeee lets do missions, but NOOOOO, gilseller this, gilsellers that. The reason I post the way I do is because you people have so much energy to want to 'clean up' this virtual world, Its still only a game, I enjoy this game. Why don't you use the energy you have and set up a neighborhood watch, i mean you are so proficient with profiling the bad guys, do it for your community, keep your streets clean. People cry so hard and long about this place, what about where you live? You should look OUTSIDE the box as well since you are so good at pointing fingers. Make it useful. whatever.
#80 Sep 13 2005 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
RevenantVDA wrote:
In an interview SE has said they need tangible proof to provide account deletion, because anyone can say whatever they want when they play.


Sometimes I think it's just SE is too cowardly to do anything. Its SE's software, its SE's hardware, they could delete anyone on a whim and there could be nothing done about it really. It would suck for the people being deleted and possibly cause some bad PR but in the end I think the game would still survive.

Superstars have generally been a pain to our LS to the point of trying to MPK members or killing off released pets when we're using them against a NM. It's gotten to the point where they will kill off anything we're using even if we're killing Guivre.

There are a few others that I'm not sure if they're gilsellers or just someone who likes to farm a lot (as both I and and anyone in the LS has never seen them party). I won't mention names at this point because they've done me no harm but it just seems odd to see the same person all the time farming no matter what odd hour you're on.

As for not having a pearl during a static, it's possible they take their shells off during their static run but I find it hard to believe they'd go the entire time without a LS. Most people in game have a LS belonging to one group or another, it's rare to see anyone without one. Just because you're in a static with friends doesn't mean you can't talk to your LS at the same time.

side note for Rev - LoTB is back up and running. We quickly reformed after the shell breaking but some members may have been lost in the shuffle. If you're still interested in leveling beastmaster sent me a tell in game some day and I'll see what I can do about getting you a pearl.

#81 Sep 18 2005 at 12:52 AM Rating: Decent
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I saw Honeybear camping at the top of Delkfutt's Tower and he actually helped me with the rank 4 fight (I was only like 35 PLD at the time) since I was only a 32 WHM and used sneak/invis to get up there. He sounds like a gilseller (which is low) but at least he offered to help me with a mission so he isn't a complete jerk.

I saw him up there about 2 weeks later when I was a 46 or so PLD and helped a friend with his rank 4. I /sea all honeybear every once in awhile and he is almost always camped in there lately.

Also: Today I responded to a /shout in Jeuno for help on Rank 5 for 100K. I saw that the person was level 59 so I figured "heck they won't be a leech so this should be quick and easy." I said I would help out, and they didn't have ANYTHING in Jeuno done yet, which was annoying. I decided I would bite the bullet, since I was low on cash after buying my Dark Staff. They had obviously done NO research on the mission since they did not have Tenshodo Memberships yet or any of the items (they did not know where Aldo was).

Here was the weird part: Rather than buy the items from the AH themselves they either gave me the money and asked me. I bought their tenshodo invites and the couerl meat for the Crest of Davoi with money they gave me. My first thought was "WTH they don't know where these things are on the AH and they are level 59?"

She asked me if her whole LS could join us. There were 6 of them, all exactly at level 59 so I assumed they were a static. She was a mithra RDM with all NPC store-bought or NM drop gear (no AF, no crafted-only items like elemental staves).

I can't remember her name but the gear and the suspicion that arose from her either not knowing how to search for things on the AH or her desire to not have her name on the AH record (that could have been it) was just plaing weird.

She had a WHM with her, a Taru named Applekiller, also level 59. He had RSE pants and shoes and a Dark Staff (at least). Neither of them had any idea whatsoever what they had to do to even get ready to travel to Davoi, Beadeaux, or Castle O for rank 5. When she told me that her LS/static whatever wanted help I told her that they should make a party and we should Alliance (7 people total). When she said that none of them had their items either, I just gave up. It wasn't worth 100K to walk 6 level 59 "noobs" around Jeuno because they didn't take 5 minutes to research the mission.

She offered me 50K and said "Next time I need help you help me OK?" I told her if she took care of her research she shouldn't need my help at her level and declined her money offer. She spoke very broken English and her compatriot didn't seem to speak any at all.

Their behavior in general just arose major suspicion in me and I have never run into them before leveling or anything. If my suspicions were unfounded I apologize, and deserve my rates down. If any of you have encountered suspicious behavior by them let me know so I can Blist them before they harangue me for help in the future.
#82 Sep 18 2005 at 2:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Dankness just seems like an idiot I'm Mean DRK/BLM and no life belt miss miss miss miss, she can't be a gillseller, gillsellers need to be good gamers...

It's True new LS called Killers are gillsellers I know this couse I was camping in sea serpant grotta and killers + Supers where there aswell, I'm not going to get into to much detail but they openly MPK each other couse they gillsellers and gilsellers don't call GM...

I'm gunna say this out in the open I like Gards and Supers and I'll tell you why, couse the new bread of gillsellers are A/holes I saved 2 of them from a MPK and ... and they keep attempting to try the /tell trick on me where they send giberish over tell so you'll miss/tell info to them while camping.. it's dis-respectful!
but easily avoidable if you know what your doing (Just don't responed to gillsellers) let them talk away...!

When getting RDM TEST from Ruby Qudav Gardwind & Gardlove would camp NM aswell they helpped me get Test alout of times but as soon as they got in my way at getting test couse I was in a PT of my own I imedietly started to MPK them... but they forgave me right after, they also give me raise 3s when I need it and help with heals on occasion... it's there job they don't need trouble but I sure as hell not gunna stop anyone from MPKing any gillseller I would stand and /laugh!

In conslusion with out gillseller how would we find out all the good NM camping spots... I mean all ya gotta do is follow them around for a day, watch what they kill otta be a placeholder and see how they camp. you want to learn how to camp see how the pros do it LOL@!
#83 Sep 18 2005 at 2:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Dankness just seems like an idiot I'm Mean DRK/BLM and no life belt miss miss miss miss, she can't be a gillseller, gillsellers need to be good gamers...

It's True new LS called Killers are gillsellers I know this couse I was camping in sea serpant grotta and killers + Supers where there aswell, I'm not going to get into to much detail but they openly MPK each other couse they gillsellers and gilsellers don't call GM...

I'm gunna say this out in the open I like Gards and Supers and I'll tell you why, couse the new bread of gillsellers are A/holes I saved 2 of them from a MPK and ... and they keep attempting to try the /tell trick on me where they send giberish over tell so you'll miss/tell info to them while camping.. it's dis-respectful!
but easily avoidable if you know what your doing (Just don't responed to gillsellers) let them talk away...!

When getting RDM TEST from Ruby Qudav Gardwind & Gardlove would camp NM aswell they helpped me get Test alout of times but as soon as they got in my way at getting test couse I was in a PT of my own I imedietly started to MPK them... but they forgave me right after, they also give me raise 3s when I need it and help with heals on occasion... it's there job they don't need trouble but I sure as hell not gunna stop anyone from MPKing any gillseller I would stand and /laugh!

In conslusion with out gillseller how would we find out all the good NM camping spots... I mean all ya gotta do is follow them around for a day, watch what they kill otta be a placeholder and see how they camp. you want to learn how to camp see how the pros do it LOL@!
#84 Sep 18 2005 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
not true. the gilsellers i mentioned much much earlier in this thread are terrible players. last i saw they were lvl 66 and still using gear from the 20s. also the whm in the little groupwas actually missing about 75% of his spells for his lvl (i know this because i saw him use about 20 scrolls in the middle of jeuno at lvl 66). many of the gilsellers are actually very crappy players. and all the people on here that are pulling the "I WAS ANON CAMPING NMS BEFORE SO I MUST BE A GILSELLER RIGHT GOIZ? ^___^^^" ********* you know damn well thats not what we're talking about =\. you see a person acting a certain way long enough and you know theyre a gilseller =( thats what it boils down to
#85 Sep 18 2005 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I got your gil sellers right HERE!



I'm sure this is old, but I couldn't resist.
#86 Sep 18 2005 at 10:10 PM Rating: Default
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Since the JP relase of the new spoiler for the new expantion, gilsellers are gunna need to start working alout harder.... you may all notice that gilsellers don't do sky and I bet none have sea access, heck no one in my shell has sea access... I hear alout of players say SE lets the gilseller get away with what there doing but it's not totaly true, couse gillsellers are limited to camping your ground NMs and since the rumor of the supers getting kicked from server for using change job anywhere hacks others have invaded shiva...

I don't know anything about the expantion but I bet all of you that gillsellers will get gimped here just as they have with sky and especialy with CoP, I strongly belive we all play for fun but making this game your job is not what SE made this game for....

Another thing I wanted to mention is that NMs should not be monopilized and camped day in and day out, just camp it get claim win and move on to the next NM you want if it's gil your after do BCNMs and KSNMs over an over, let others get in on the NM after your done!....!....!....!!!

I start flames here couse my LS won't let me start flames on there boards!! HAHAHahaha!....

P.S. I hope the new expantion brings new tank, melee, mages and somthing new jobs! + I wouldn't mind being the villan for once like some ofline games offer... + about 7 months ago my moogle followed me to the auction house I was like WTF! I think someomes hack mess my data up and curupted the server...
#87 Sep 18 2005 at 10:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Not to rain in on your parade Paltek but the gil-sellers will eventually enter Sky and Sea. Just like any virus they will adapt and complete what has to be done if they find a legitimate, stable gil source up there. The reason they would adapt would be if their "owners" see it as a good buisness move to enter Sky or Sea and force the ppl playing as the gil-sellers to get there or face losing their jobs. =(
#88 Sep 19 2005 at 12:20 AM Rating: Default
god help us if they move into sky and monopolize all the god pop NMs...... ugh that would suck balls
#89 Sep 19 2005 at 4:11 AM Rating: Decent
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The first step in preventing gilselling is knowing who the gilsellers are, once thats accomplished there jobs become harder...(Couse who is gunna help a know gilsller?)

Think of all the missions like killing a GOD or Hakutaku that you need 18+players. The worst that could really happen is all the gilsellers on Shiva making a new Web-site and banning together,and starting up a HNMLS... like I wrote before they MPK each other openly and if that stopped we would see players become poor and the rich trying to make laws from keeping the beggers off the streets of jeuno TOTAL ANARCHY@!

P.S. In my last online game I was a space pirate in EVE ONLINE and I would smuggle slaves accross the gallente border for money and a thrill, I'M NOT GOING BACK@!
#90 Sep 19 2005 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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ugh that would suck balls


you say that like it's a negative
#91 Sep 19 2005 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Ewwwww we totaly off topic!!!
#92 Sep 20 2005 at 1:01 AM Rating: Decent
all i have to say is LOL
#93 Sep 20 2005 at 1:45 AM Rating: Good
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I have run into this party just recently in Kuftal = Jiolvo, Gogoli, Fieldo, Thlpes, Poiliu and Roseya. All wearing assault jerkins or something - really rude since they camped right on top of my melee, so that para-ga and silence-ga would hit us all. /sigh
#94 Sep 24 2005 at 11:40 PM Rating: Default
Wow, I completly agree with ninechars, There ARE idiotic players on Shiva, most of them seem to be higher levels also, I mean think about how many times you've been associated in the same party with someone who does not know hiw job, im pretty sure im not the only one here, and the Superstar's are not indirectly Gilsellers, if you would take the time and get to know them they're not a Quanting so stop complaining.
#95 Sep 25 2005 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
eh whatever. in my eyes ALL gisellers are trash. i dont give a flying **** how nice they are. ive had one of the supers raise me in kuftal before but i still hope they get banned from the game.
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