I know the DMG would take a hit badly comparitively speaking, if I used the Havoc over the Death Scythe. I plan on using both, if I can get the Havoc Scythe, I'm taking my time with DRK, and trying out as many items as I can with it end game. I can't help it, I'm obsessed with the job, and just want to collect all that I can for it. Of course, I wear a Demon's Harness now, but for meaningful fights or a serious exp pt, I'll wear my Hauberk, until I get some gear uncursed. I just like variety, and super rare items. I agree with you though, and don't think you're bashing. For damage dealing there are better scythes. Anyone in soulfire could tell you how I go nuts over particular items. Badian and Alderon have been having a field day with my retardedness. -_-