sophustehnewb wrote:
It's frustrating, yes. I already said that I don't agree with some of these changes because RNG and NIN have to pay an immense amount of money to achieve the same or similar results as other jobs. But the fact is that it happened and there isn't a damn thing that you can do about it. What's more, it happened to RANGER, not to COHLE. This WASN'T a nerf Cohle patch.
I'm not saying to "deal with it" because I'm tired of rangers ********* Your job is different now and you haven't adjusted yet...but you will. Just like SAM, MNK and DRG, this patch will eventually be a distant memory.
First of all, that was uncalled for. Your fight is with the patch, and maybe even with SE. You obviously want people to respect your opinion. Give the same respect to others.
Complaining about the issue is not productive. It's not getting you anywhere. Quite frankly, it's selfish.
You said that you liked the damage and respectability you got pre-patch and it was OUR fault for not recognizing the abilities of other jobs. Well now the playing field is a tad more leveled. From now on it's going to be your abilities that get you that respectability and not simply your job attributes. I think that's what scares you.
Other rangers are trying to make the most out of it and you are coming on here to attack people for posting their opinions as both rangers and non-rangers. Guess what Cohle, there ARE other jobs out there besides ranger. Our subscriptions cost just as much as yours, and we have our opinions as well. While we may not know what it's like to play ranger, we sure as hell know what it's like to be in a group. We can see when a person is excelling or not pulling their own weight. We can see both the strengths and weaknesses of every single person we party with.
One last thing. While you here attacking us about the patch, those other "nerfed" and overlooked jobs are out there shining. Are you going to attack people on a message board who can't change the patch, or are you going to go out there and bust your *** and make certain that RNG doesn't become the next Dark Knight?
p.s.--no offense to DRK....you damn wind fans :p
Edited, Thu Jul 28 12:45:18 2005 by SophusTehNewb
I'm not saying to "deal with it" because I'm tired of rangers ********* Your job is different now and you haven't adjusted yet...but you will. Just like SAM, MNK and DRG, this patch will eventually be a distant memory.
First of all, that was uncalled for. Your fight is with the patch, and maybe even with SE. You obviously want people to respect your opinion. Give the same respect to others.
Complaining about the issue is not productive. It's not getting you anywhere. Quite frankly, it's selfish.
You said that you liked the damage and respectability you got pre-patch and it was OUR fault for not recognizing the abilities of other jobs. Well now the playing field is a tad more leveled. From now on it's going to be your abilities that get you that respectability and not simply your job attributes. I think that's what scares you.
Other rangers are trying to make the most out of it and you are coming on here to attack people for posting their opinions as both rangers and non-rangers. Guess what Cohle, there ARE other jobs out there besides ranger. Our subscriptions cost just as much as yours, and we have our opinions as well. While we may not know what it's like to play ranger, we sure as hell know what it's like to be in a group. We can see when a person is excelling or not pulling their own weight. We can see both the strengths and weaknesses of every single person we party with.
One last thing. While you here attacking us about the patch, those other "nerfed" and overlooked jobs are out there shining. Are you going to attack people on a message board who can't change the patch, or are you going to go out there and bust your *** and make certain that RNG doesn't become the next Dark Knight?
p.s.--no offense to DRK....you damn wind fans :p
Edited, Thu Jul 28 12:45:18 2005 by SophusTehNewb
sophus do you want to know what pissed me off about your post?
you can disagree with my opinion all you like. you can question the facts and reasoning behind it, you can argue with me. what pisses me off is you and others like you take a logical argument written in a respectful way without personally attacking anyone and pass it off as "whining." DO NOT undermine my intelligence and disregard my argument just because you dont feel like listening to someones complaints. no one MADE you read this thread.
if its selfish to post an opinion on a public message board fine. i am going to be selfish. i thought this place was for discussion anyways. not one sided arguments where one party is declared the "whiner". i havent gone around spamming the board with this, i've kept it confined to this one thread where discussion on this matter that i've been arguing on is happening. again, if you dont feel like arguing leave the thread.
it was my abilities that got me respect and recognition in the first place. just because ranger could outdamage other jobs easier doesnt mean that i could simply sit there in a party and do absolutely nothing and put up good numbers. ****** rangers did not last very long in parties pre-patch, they still wont last long post patch. nowhere has this patch "scared" me. however it has been very frustrating to have ones damage and purpose in a party basically be stripped away from you.
sophus i did not attack anyone in my posts with the exception of you. i made generalized statements about the community as a whole which could be considered less than nice, but i did not explicitly tell anyone "get a life" or "stop whining" like you all have done to me in this thread, or like many have done to the OP.
you're right sophus, there ARE other jobs out there. however, the playing field is not more level. it is ridiculously skewed against ranger now. it was perfectly level before, but you all couldnt get past the idea of "RNG ONRY". i was guilty of it too. but i dont see that as any reason to gimp a job class.
oh and for the record, i have already bought new equipment and begun to make adjustments to accomodate this stupid unjust patch in spite of the trash talk and stuff that is being brought by other people. when i am playing, i am doing exactly what it is you all are telling me to do. so i kindly ask you to shut up about that. when i am on here, on a message board, a forum for public opinion, then i am going to argue. because i dont feel that this is right.