Acronym or n00bspeak?Follow

Taking this out of the n00b guide and into it's own separate thread.

What is considered to be acceptable acronym and what is without a doubt n00bspeak?


Acceptable Acronyms:

lol
roflmao
rofl
wtf
wth
omg
brb
brt
wc
roflmaopip

n00bspeak:

U
UR
R
l0lz
teh
t3h
th3
r0x0rz
s0x0rz
sux
momz
ne1
ru
plz!
1337
h4x0rz

Also any bastardization of any word where the individual substitutes a number for a letter or inputs the letter Z for s.
Examples m0mz, f4rm, th3, 101z.


However do not just assume that someone with bad typing skills is a n00b. We all have made typos and some people don't know how to spell a word. When in doubt run away.

Feel free to add and discuss, argue or debate what you consider to be acceptable and unacceptable communication skills.


Edited, Tue Jun 14 11:18:58 2005 by Papawarlock

Damn it papa the main forum /cry

Ok now I have to get into this with you (albeit friendly like).


How does one decide what is acceptable and what is not when speaking of acronyms?

How can I (or you), decide what is acceptable and what is not when speaking of acronyms?

99% of the world DOES NOT accept any of the aforementioned *acceptable* acronyms.


Noob speak or leet or 1337 or Aol speak is not really acronyms. I would classify it as more like *pig-latin* (some of you young-uns may not know what this is). A complete bastardization of a language, to eliminate educated people (Ie.. Parents/ adults) from understanding it.

As a child, me and friends made up code words for certain things our parents did not want us to do. For example, if we said we were going to the "Park", that really meant we would be meeting in that house they were building, that no one was ever in. If we said bring "Soda", that really meant that the designated person was to rob their fathers liquor cabinet. If we said bring "Gum", that meant to sneak some cigaretts from a parent/brother/cousin ect.

Since my days as a teenager, they seemed to have developed a more intricate way of hiding what they are saying. The reason people dislike this language so much, is one or more of the following.

#1 They dont understand it. This happens to be me, while I can understand the basic begginer lvl of 1337 speak, when it becomes more complicated I can not understand it. I see some crap like /\47/843/\\/, and have no clue what the hell im looking at. Some of the more obvious ones I can grasp, but many I cannot.

#2 They have an irresistable urge to use proper english, and seeing someone bastardize a language in that way enfuriates them. I am the first to admit, that my grammar skilzorz suxorz. I never liked english classes, and usually took that time as an oportunity to do something besides pay attention. When I concentrate, I use fairly good grammar, however *in game* all bets are off. I make typos like crazy, because I type very fast and have extremly large fingers (might just be an excuse but...). I dont bother fixing typos, so long as I feel my point will be well received. Some people see others mistakes, and it makes them cringe. I however, do not do this, and find it rather annoying when someone goes around correcting others grammar mistakes. I mean after all this is a game and not a classroom/workplace, there really is no need to correct peoples grammar (especially you're, i'm there and their and they're ect). Perfectionists seem to have the hardest time letting go and leaving people be.

#3 They have a sibling/child/friend ect that uses it. They understand completly, but dont like it. This is an understandable reason to be annoyed with 1337 speak. Being forced to decipher the language to understand it is an annoyance, and i cant blame people for being annoyed.

Anyways, these are some of my thoughts on this subject, I am curious to see where this goes.

Indeed, and thank goodness for some sense of sanity in vanadiel :)



This is true, I was jut pointing out, that we as individuals are makeing up our own rules on whats acceptable. In 30-40 threads on the main forum about this exact topic, people say it is ok to use lol and wc and brb, but unaceptable to use u ur r. I find this extremly hypocritical, since there is really no defined resource that coagulates whats right and wrong.

Lol, brb, rofl, omg, ect were all unacceptable at one point in time as well. But from being used so frequently, have become generally accepted in the online community. The same thing is happening with u ur r, ect, but who are we as individuals to say this is unaceptable? Arguably, if the masses accept it, then it is acceptable. And the masses are the young children becomeing adults. If they are to hold onto this type of speaking, then we will eventually reform to it (possibly unwilingly), and accept it as we have done with lol, brb ect.

However, I dont think things like roxorz and suxorz and the like will ever become accepted as lol, brb, and omg have. Or I hope not at least.

you forgot omgxors!!!1!!one!1

Hehe...hehe...hehe...hehe... Man am I guilty of n00bish or what? Now, I'm definately not proud of it, but it's what I put up with on a daily basis. Whenever I play FF, and forget to kill Trillian (;_;), I end up with about 15 messages so full of sh---1337, that it's become common for me. I hate it, and try to use proper grammar when I really need something. Papa of all people should know how bad I *can* be with it, but most of the time (minus t3h) it's simply making fun of the incredulous bastardization of the Fantasy I try to enter.

On to the 'teh' subject. I think it's about like 'taht.' Maybe it's just me that types the word incorrectly every time I try, but I've come to love my little 'teh.'

Teh is kinda cute <_< so sometimes I use it deliberately under my Tarutaru char(it wouldnt look cute as an elvaan saying it XD)

Edit: I'm a lonely Hume DRK

XD jk I lurves ya

not necessarily. Tarus have speech impediments so it might be in character speech, you never know.

Edited, Wed Jun 15 09:49:07 2005 by doomygir

I'm not a drk. ; ; I happen to have spent much more time perfecting the arts of drg and sam. My drk simply seems to get invites more often. ~.~

And about the taru's and their speech impediment, I suppose so. But, and this is a rather big one, it seems like their odd speech goes in an entirely different direction. Oh well. ^^

Ok, u forgot somethings that must be added like like Whm and tank in the same sentence...Yes all you Valcrum n00bs Whm CANNOT be tank. so stop asking me!!! for anouther thing if you are a whm and u accindentally used Cure2 on the mob that was about to die and ended up killing the whole party (except you who ran off after you helped it out) dont brag about how u were the only one who survived infact just log now (for about a year) and save yourself the trouble of being called a n00b in every party u get into.And if you dont know something ASK and dont get pissed at some one for calling you WRONG. I'm sorry all who are enjoying this but i have to stop now or im going to start using names.....

Well... We use 'lol' and 'brb' and all the other short-hand terms because it is.. habitual. I mean, alot of people would be totally dumbfounded if someone actually wrote out 'laugh out loud' and they would probably die from seeing something outside the norm. >.>

I use brb, lol, wc, teh(to make fun of of the word itself XD), and smilies. Smilies are okay in my book because they're fun. (^.^)d!

But yeah, I start to cringe whenever I see the n00bspeak.. like ur, u, r, and all of that crap. I mean, yeah it's a game, not a classroom, but still, some people like to roleplay and act true to character. Only time when I use it is to make fun of it's origin, or the current user speaking to me... >.>;;

I guess I've been raised to think that standard Engrish is just better than everything else. Or the fact that I like to get into my character. :p

Actualy you can cure any mob except for a beastmaster pet. It's a way for whms and rdms to MPK. You just target them with the spell, and boom, their HP bar goes up. Only use this fact for REAL jerks though, like Gillsellers.

The only feesable way to actually cure a mob is if you drag an elemental over and cast an elemental spell on it that matches the elemental's type. (I.E Fire on a Fire elemental.)

Fer, you use grammar and your sentences better than an American HS student -.-;;
lol. They don't teach the kids here much anymore it seems...