You know I dont get this gimped like hell and still couldn't pull hate off him crap. I do everything in a Paladins power to keep hate, Use Shield Bash, Sentinel, Voke every 30 seconds, spam Cure 3's, have Enmity +6 with 2 AF pieces and a Mermaid Ring. Yes at the end of a decent Length fight noone can pull hate of me, but If a Ranger Decides to do sidewinder and barrage before any Paladin gets his 2nd voke off, there is no way the RNG will not get the Hate, well unless Invincible is used just prior to it. Everyone talks about this could not pull hate of these people, well yeah, at the end of a decent length fight with a good PLD you wont be able too, but wait till Pikkon gets a trigger happy RNG who likes to go crazy before he does his 2nd voke and then tell me if hate could be pulled.