Attention Players of Ragnarok, A Petition to SEFollow

wierd :o rating you awful didn't do anything

Yea what a lazy person. I learned pretty quickly myself. It doesn't take a rocket scientist!

The right way~With the good damage just like Mom used to make!

And the wrong way~Damage is lowered by about 30-50%

Don't get to close, like in melee range, it's bad for damage unless you really have bad aim, or want to really not miss sidewinder.

Close=Lower Damage Higher Acc
Right Spot=Average Acc/Higher Maximum damage
Far=Lower Acc/Lower Damage

That's what I've gotten out of a level 68 exp party in Bibiki bay after a few thousand exp.

It's pretty fun and realistic, that I like, and I cant wait to try with the X-bow and gun, /sam and /war which I already have leveled for a day like this to come.


Edited, Thu Jul 21 04:33:06 2005 by Minona

Its not even the dmg thats the problem its the ranged distance. We cant solo or farm effectively, or fight higher lvl nms. As soon as the mob walks to us we are in trouble cause our dmg is halved and we cant take a hit. We relied on killing fast so we dont get killed.

That is gone, also camping in small areas is gone, think of onzozo, have 2 parties in teh tunnel, a ranger from one party will have to stand by the pld of the other group, or stand by aggro.

Even though the distance thing makes sense, it causes more problems then not, fine reduce dmg, even though mnks and wars are stronger end game, but noone seems to ***** about that do they.


Then they ***** about the arrowburns, but hey noone ******* about the manaburn or bones parties.

The problem in ranger dmg is not end game or pre barrage or even pre sidewinder, the only time ranger really is overpowered is from 55-70 then the other melee classes catch up and some surpass, but people need to get their heads out of their asses to realize this.

Balance is not just about end game its about every lvl. Drg is overpowered to 50 compared to other jobs, then they tank, Drks are overpowered when they get spinning slash, but cant do much on gods. Blms are overpowered all the time, they just stop nuking. Monks are overpowered on bones and endgame. Wars are overpowered end game, and they can take a hit too. Nins are overpowered with tanking after 37 and endgame. My god whms get cure V wtf is that.

See its easy to do. Destroying a class cause of whining does nothing. SE is just too lazy to look at all the jobs and try to balance them thoughout the lvl ranges.

My thought is. Ranger and monk should do the most dmg, because thats all they do, the give nothing more to party. Drg, drk, wars, thfs, blms, sams just do just under them because they all have other abilities that add to the party besides dmg.

Simple.

Who says that the game should be easy? I'm pretty enthusiastic to hear that things will be a bit tougher. If you don't want a challenge try Worlds of Warcraft.

The implications of this update on an LS's ability to kill Kirin and hnm's like Gration are incredible. Besides making it harder for NIN's to maintain enough hate to kite him, the loss of effective rng dmg is HUGE. The distance factor plays big on a kited God or HNM. I'm a blm, and I can tell ya, if they nerfed my job's dmg to what the rng puts out now, I'd quit. Gonna have to have a kraken and speedbelt and WS every 20 seconds to even come close to the respectable amount of damage from the past. I really and truly want to express my condolences to all those that were willing to dish out the gil and time to take rng to endgame. I know people are thinking "stop whining, blah blah blah" but this is a devastating blow to everyone in the endgame.

Petition... Come on, So unoriginal; Maybe you whiners could think of something else, like a march. I've always wondered if some rangers chose their job JUST for the damage and for no other reason. Besides, just throw a little more money into your job (which i'm sure all rangers are used to), stop whining, learn the new system of damage and you can do even more than before the update.

If I cared enough about karma to bother getting Scholar, I'd rate the OP down just for making an online petition.

They never work.

Ever.

Personally, as a PLD, im not seeing a real big downside to the RNG gimping. Sure it sucks for them and farming and such, but damn if it wasnt so hard to keep them alive as a tank in PT. They would Barrage, or Sidewinder, or some other super powerful hate mongering attack and suddenly the mob is vowing to destroy their enitire family starting with them. Then the mage has to cure like crazy and they take hate from that. All the while im frantically trying to get it back wiht multiple cures (not many being Galka with crap MP and buckling under the strain of ever increasing prices of MP plusoing rings and equip) Flash, Vokes, Senitinel, Cursing out its mother, whatever i can do. And you may say cover but if they do massive hate catchign attacks and i cover, it only lasts 30 secs and after its gone its going right back after them. So yeah, the RNG nerfing sucks on some counts, feels damn good on others. And thats my two cents.

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Grivvon
PLD 59/WAR 29

Oh Boo FK!ng Hoo!!!
If you don't like something either live with it or leave.

Giggle.


I agree with Booger though... SE is starting to act like Turbine the way they tore up AC2. They nerf 1 job, get a bunch of complaints, and nerf all the rest of the jobs "to be fair", instead of leaving **** alone.

Such a shame.... FFXI was a good game too...

Bah i think this isn't as a nerf but as a new change in the way the job should of been fighting wise. ranger the word that comes to mind id hmmm. what is that again. o yea it's RANGE. It's the genral mechanics of how things go. I mean u can tell what rangers suck for calling NERF just b/c they changed the way u fight to suit ur job. i have only seen a 5-10% drop in damage and the way every1 is saying it is like 25-40% drop in damage and it's not. Rng is more fun now that they changed it. They have gave depth to the rng job so it's differant then others. Pre-patch a rng could have crappy equipment and weak arrows and still output heavy damage. U camplain about paying so much to exp. cry me a river. get woodworking and alchemy up is ur so pissed about that. don't c this as a gimp but as a good change.

IF YOU TRUELY LOVE THE JOB YOU WOULD KEEP WITH IT AND TAKE 3 MIN TO FIND THAT SWEET SPOT, AND GO OUT THERE AND LVL

"IF YOU TRUELY LOVE THE JOB YOU WOULD KEEP WITH IT AND TAKE 3 MIN TO FIND THAT SWEET SPOT, AND GO OUT THERE AND LVL "

THERE IS MORE TO THIS GAME THEN JUST LEVELING. NEXT PERSON THAT MAKES A COMMENT LIKE THIS I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN.

The job is broken, this is without a doubt, there is someone wrong with ranger acc. Take your lvl 75 any job and go to any starting area city, see if you will have a 50% acc on lvl 4 mobs. Guess what you will hardly ever miss, unless you are a ranger and you will miss alot, even from this so called sweet spot.

Ranger = broken = gimp = sucks outside an xp party.

Rangers cant hit Nww, I have been to a lvl 4 mob area with a lvl 75 ranger with good gear and had a 50 percent acc rate on those mobs.

No other job has that poor hit rate, not even on T mobs.

There is a problem with ranger ranged acc. not talkign about damage or anything like that, but you shouldnt miss on nww, no other job misses like that.

Something is broken.