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#1 Jul 03 2005 at 8:18 PM Rating: Decent
Yesterday 3/7/2005 at 3GMT time me (yueji) and LS were in Labyrinth of Onzozo camping Ose and all other NM Goblins.
Vedrice got the pop for Souleater Skullnix. As a 71BST/WHM he attempted to use toramas as pets to kill the NM. However, the Gob is just too powerful for him and he had to run to find new mobs, and his toramas are dying too fast. As such, we decided that when he lost hate or lost the fight (i would say "lost it"), we will pull. We are not stealing here, 'cos stealing would refer to stealing the victory spoils of others, and clearly Vedrice wasn't winning. And we are proven correct as after Vedrice MPK-ed us he tried again and he died.

Now the main incident. He pulled the gob NM out of his room and linked 2 other gobs. I dont know if he died the first time and reraised himself or what cos i didnt see him. But the Gob NM and his links lost hate to him. We wanted to play fair and square so we waited till the Gob NM started to move back to its camp. Vedrice we gave you time. But he does not have that ability apparently. So we pulled. And you know what he did? he said "That was my NM!" and started to charm and release toramas at us while we are killing the NM gob. Hey mind you there is no such things called "Your" or "Mine" NM. This case isnt like ppl spamming Chi Blast in mob being fought by an alliance. As a result 3 or us died. Zalathrone, Desouled and me died, while Aishaneko, Bleakz and xiaozhao escaped. We called a GM and he investigated it and hope he does the justice.

Anyone please post comments. Even if you feel that we are being greedy and deserve that death post so. I accept comments on both sides and also allow you to defend yourself Vedrice. I can even accept that it "might be" a moment of anger and folly on Vedrice's part but the game has its rules on MPK.

And after that when we all got raised (mind you i ate a R1) a JP by the name of Grumpjr or something like that (cant remember his name fully) a RDM/NIN was soloing OSE. He fought it till 20% life and accidentally got Blasted. And we cured him to save his ***. Cos we dont steal other ppl's true, victory confirmed hard work. And when he got his jerkin drop, he was so happy and we are happy for him too.
#2 Jul 03 2005 at 8:40 PM Rating: Good
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I remembered going to Boyadha Tree with my XP PT 2 weeks ago. The DRG said that Aquarius popped, and I responded dully "Sure, if he's unclaimed let's take him, I can kite". To my surprise, he DID pull an unclaimed Aquarius. Not knowing what else to do, I instructed my RDM, Vahnn, to Gravity it and my BLM, Gauntlet, to nuke the boogers out of it. Needless to say, we got quite a crowd following us, and guess who was one of them with Knight Crawler for a pet? Vedrice.


So down to about 50% health, my DRG screamed for me to stop so he can WS Aquarius. Big mistake. At that moment Vedrice purposely released the crawler, which promptly attacked my SMN, Saitohaj. I couldn't do anything as Aquarius was trying to feast on a delectable PLD Taru with less than half HP left. So down goes SMN, and he was furious, which I don't blame him. Anyways, we kill it and got drop (Damascene Cloth), and SMN demands us to blist Vedrice, the MPKer.


For anyone who also wants different perspectives of the same story, please ask the people I have mentioned above, especially Saitohaj, whom was MPKed himself.

**Meant perspective, not variants >_>;;



Edited, Sun Jul 3 22:11:58 2005 by Kagapi
#3 Jul 03 2005 at 9:31 PM Rating: Good
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hey yueji

it sucks that this happened to you. it seems that he has done it more than once so i hope he gets some repercussion for his actions.
#4 Jul 04 2005 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
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edit: nvmd, I'll take my words back. Shouldn't have comment before hear both side of story.

Edited, Tue Jul 5 04:56:25 2005 by Freedoomone
#5 Jul 04 2005 at 2:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Wed Jul 6 15:24:11 2005 by Trichocyst
#6 Jul 04 2005 at 3:41 AM Rating: Default
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Now, I don't mean to contradict your post there, Kagapi, but being a young BST myself, I had a few questions in mind when I was done reading your post.

1) He MPK'ed you with 1 Knight Crawler?

2) How did he do this, if you only stopped kiting for renkei, when Leave'ed pets are docile for ~8 seconds? Couldn't your party have run to a safe distance in that time?

o.oa
#7 Jul 04 2005 at 4:58 AM Rating: Decent
8 secs. But apparently he's quite pro in doing it. We got 3 toramas on us in a matter of secs. I died cos i cured while bleakz chainspell escape, with aishaneko perfect dodge tanked. Once you get MPK-ed by him you wont believe that it is impossible.

Watch out for this guy.
#8 Jul 04 2005 at 8:01 AM Rating: Good
I think you were in the wrong taking the gob. You should have waited for him to die. Thats the rule with other nms, so why it being a bst should it be different.

A bst can look like hes losing and end up coming back for the win.
#9 Jul 04 2005 at 8:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think you were in the wrong taking the gob. You should have waited for him to die. Thats the rule with other nms, so why it being a bst should it be different.

A bst can look like hes losing and end up coming back for the win.


Him losing hate to the enemy, and the enemy having time to walk back is more then enough time to have what they did fair.

It's the equivilent of him dieing if you ask me.
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#10 Jul 04 2005 at 9:11 AM Rating: Good
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Yes, 8 seconds is enough for the crawler to notice my SMN to get aggro from it. Apparently, only I had my camera angled behind my party while every one of my member focused on Aquarius exclusively. But hey, I would rather you ask Saitohaj instead! ;p He WAS the one being aggro'd here.
#11 Jul 04 2005 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
One of my Lsmates saw vedrice today, seems like the GMs gave him a verbal warning and let him go at that.

I was hoping he would get at least a temperory ban for what he did to us. If he can do it to us he can do it to anyone.

Everyone whose near Vedrice should be careful when you claimed an NM , who knows what underhand methods he would think of next?


#12 Jul 04 2005 at 10:55 AM Rating: Good
Dont forget if you run far away to find a pet while another pet is still fighting you can lose hate, and nm can walk back.

That happened to me before fighting an nm. I had to run way to another room to get a pet cause none left in area and when i ran back to the nm he was on his way back to spawn area. Its not that far you have to be for the nm to lose track of you. Someone took it the nm, i dont blame him cause he didnt know i was fighting it, but if he did know, hes he stole it.

Bsts fighting nms work alot differently then anyone else. And if you steal from a bst then you end up dead in many cases

Not saying this guy isnt a prick, but i can see why he killed you all, and to him i think you may have deserved it, and i can see his point of view if thats what happened as above. I wasnt there but I know whats it like to have a nm taken away from you after you spend alot of time fighting it. It can be very frustrating. And alot of players have little respect for bsts, they think parties take precedent over them and parties can order them around.

Now the boyada tree thing is different.

Bst is a very helpful job in the right hands and a dangerous job in the wrong hands.
#13 Jul 04 2005 at 1:35 PM Rating: Default
OK, i'd like to reply to Trichoyst's post....
I did not slander or say anything bad about your LS. And i didn't leave because of a woman. Before you assume anything..... look at what you're doing to your own LS. People left your LS because of you. I did not say anything bad about it. So, keep your mouth shut if you dont know anything......

~Vedrice The MPKer!!!!
Wow, thats a good title >_>;; First of all, i left my character in Onzozo so that i can camp Ose. When i logged on I saw the gob NM and i went and grabbed it. I was trying to do a BST pull so when my pet die it wont link with the other gobs. And you that claimed my NM didnt see that i was trying to find another pet to charm. As soon as i charmed another pet, the NM loses claim. And you guys from SGFriends LS took it from me. And no i wasnt dying when i pulled it.

~And for the SMN (Saitohaj) that i "MPK'ed".... you had plenty of time to get away from the released pet. It's your own fault for just sitting there. You think imma just stand there and let a crab hit me when i can just charm it? so in order for me to stop the crab from hitting me, i had to release my pet and charm the crab. Let me tell you what happened that day...I zoned in Boyahda and scanned and saw AQ. i ran and got the claim while i waited for my friend to come and duo it. I kited AQ with a whole bunch of pets and died. Mav my friend came and got the claim. he kited it until a RDM grabbed it from him. so, i followed the people who took it from us and tried to get it back. Clearly that wasnt fair....

Now, you tell me who was wrong? Many people steal from BST's many times. I've seen it dozens of times. And if any of you that wanna /blist me because im an MPKer...... it's fine with me. *This is just a GAME anyways. you think i care?*

*Don't steal from a Beastmaster next time, OK?*
#14 Jul 04 2005 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
SGfriends, is that the ls with Thai, evilcow, evilstar in it?


Were any of them involved.
#15 Jul 04 2005 at 1:54 PM Rating: Default
First of all Trichocyst...Vedrice did not leave your LS because of me, he left because of the fact you treat your LS members poorly. I keep hearing over and over from a few of your current LS members that you never give straight answers on things like...mob levels, drops and so on. This will cause a person to leave your so-called "elite" LS. You want to know the main reason why I left? I felt like I was ignored by most of the LS members and did not like the way 2 people in particular acted when we PT'ed with them. They both tried to "take over" our set PT...sorry fellas, ain't happening. I don't care who you are, you don't have the right to treat people like they do not matter, especially when you claim that your LS "helps people". That's a big fat joke.

When I was first invited to join Axiom, I thought people were nice, I helped LS members who asked me, but I never recieved the same courtesey or help back, only from a few select people did I see any kind of kindness. I don't even think I ever recieved a "Welcome to Axiom" from Trichocyst...the so-called "leader" of Axiom. In fact...he once said "I don't know you, so you need to leave the LS"...what kind of LS leader does that to someone who HELPED others? A very poor leader in my opinion.

And yes...I did /slap one of your members, because he left a PT I was in with no prior warning, after 400 exp, a bit noobish, don't you think?...and it was a good exp PT...so therefore, whoever I decide to /slap in game is none of your business, no matter if he's in your LS, a friend of yours or your freaking grandma...I don't care.

~And a side note to all of you /blisting my BF, you may as well /blist me, too...I have nothing nice to say or do for you.

Now that I got that out of my system...it's a game people...NOT REAL LIFE~! I know some of you cannot tell the difference, its obvious by a lot of the posts I've read.~

~Kaliya~ 61 WHM/54BRD/46SAM/40BLM >>Ragnarok : Dark Legion LS<<
#16 Jul 04 2005 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
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SGfriends, is that the ls with Thai, evilcow, evilstar in it?


Were any of them involved.


Stop trying to instigate. If you had read the OP, you would have come across this.

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As a result 3 or us died. Zalathrone, Desouled and me died, while Aishaneko, Bleakz and xiaozhao escaped.
#17 Jul 04 2005 at 3:32 PM Rating: Default
Sorry but i have heard of very bad things that one ls has done, thats all. The named sounded like it was the same one they have.
#18 Jul 04 2005 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Everyone whose near Vedrice should be careful when you claimed an NM , who knows what underhand methods he would think of next?


I'm near Vedrice for hours at a time and I still have yet to have a mob stolen by him... oh wait cuz I've been duoing with him for god knows how long -_- Want some salt with your foot there swifty, or just a swift kick in the rear for making judgemends based on one side of a story.

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Him losing hate to the enemy, and the enemy having time to walk back is more then enough time to have what they did fair.

It's the equivilent of him dieing if you ask me.


So, when a BST loses claim on a mob/NM/HNM because we switch pets, it's ok for a person like you to claim the mob, because we just died, despite the fact we're still up and running around with near full HP...

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Yes, 8 seconds is enough for the crawler to notice my SMN to get aggro from it.


This is just dumb beyond belief. Of course 8 seconds is enough time, the fact still remains that your SMN stood there and let it aggro him/her. I was watching the whole thing from one of the raised areas, the SMN was right beside the crawler, and as such, WOULD have and SHOULD have seen it become uncharmed.
#19 Jul 04 2005 at 5:22 PM Rating: Good
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Looks like someone came through and rated down everyone who didn't agree with the OP's POV.

Rated everyone back up.
#20 Jul 04 2005 at 7:42 PM Rating: Default
LOL......I think this is funny as hell.....So you died for messing with VED....YOUR FAULT.....I have only one thing to say and that is "You mess with Vedrice and your gonna have alot of enemies >=)" I've known Ved for awhile now and I find him to be a very cool guy. If you's people don't like em then you's can all go pound sand up your ***. When he told me some jackass was talkin about him on the FFXI forum I just started to laugh. This is my first post here and most likely gonna be my last. I just wanted to tell the *** that started this MPK'er Vedrice forum that your an idiot and a loser who has nothing better to do than complain on a site to total strangers. *SPANK*
#21 Jul 04 2005 at 9:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Ha.

Edited, Tue Jul 5 00:34:54 2005 by Trichocyst
#22 Jul 04 2005 at 9:33 PM Rating: Default
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We called a GM and he investigated it and hope he does the justice.


Lol.
#23 Jul 04 2005 at 9:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I wanted to respond to Mavtaru. Yes 8 seconds is plenty time for a crawler to aggro a SMN who was more focused on Aquarius, not the people behind him. I'm sure his camera was zoomed ahead at all times, not behind him to watch out for released pets.


@Vedrice
Obviously, I don't know the whole detail about how and what happened the moment Aqua popped, but I do know my DRG pulled it, and I have the duty to tank it. You clearly followed us with a crawler, with purposeful intentions to release it on my party, evident to Saitohaj's death. Aggro by crab? I did not see you get attacked by anything but rather joining the crowd for the "Let's kite Aquarius" show. And my upper paragraph showed this, "let's just blame it on the SMN because it was his fault that he died to a crawler released on him, shall we?"

"*This is just a GAME anyways. you think i care?*"
I find your quote quite contradictory. If you didn't care, why bother releasing the crawler? Because you DID care, regardless of what other thoughts took place. Posting on here clearly showed you -cared- and wanted to express your views on what happened.

Anyways, I apologize on my parties behalf if they did indeed take your Aquarius. But I will never condone MPK in any form.
#24 Jul 04 2005 at 10:29 PM Rating: Good
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Mavtaru wrote:
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Him losing hate to the enemy, and the enemy having time to walk back is more then enough time to have what they did fair.

It's the equivilent of him dieing if you ask me.


So, when a BST loses claim on a mob/NM/HNM because we switch pets, it's ok for a person like you to claim the mob, because we just died, despite the fact we're still up and running around with near full HP...


Let's applie this to another situation.. Leaping Lizzy

Let's have a level 7 beastmaster.. who has a lizard and sends it after Leaping Lizzy.

It is now getting slaughtered by Leaping Lizzy, bst goes and gets more pets.. which are still getting slaughtered. bst now runs off to get MORE pets.. and fails again.. At this point she goes off to get more pets and leaves LL unclaimed.. (not just white.. meaning totally lost aggro, and is walking around freely)

LL is now running around unclaimed and a level 12 that has been watching this happen decideds to claim LL after he's been walking around for a bit.

The bst now comes back with another useless lizard pet and see's that LL is claimed! he is now pissed, and decideds to let charm wear off over LL and link to kill the level 12.



Not the best relation since LL's drop is worth a lot more but..

The bst here.. was out of the room, could NOT handle to mob, and the mob was walking around unclaimed.

If you can't handle something, Don't expect to be treated overnicely and helpful for it. the party saw that he could not handle the mob. The NM then lost aggro on him.. and he kept going away (bst). The NM then was walking back for a while.
They had every right to that NM since the bst couldn't handle it. They did not steal anything since it wasn't some glitch thingh where it went white for a bit..

all in all. even if i'm wrong, and your right.. you are still trying to defend a MPKer.

Edited, Mon Jul 4 23:29:22 2005 by Deadgye
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#25 Jul 04 2005 at 10:40 PM Rating: Good
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Reading things like this, I now realize why I quit this game. Yes I was very addicted to FFXI. I realized this most when a good friend made a small mistake and I was totally pissed about it. I ended up dieing from their mistake as was so mad about it I almost B Listed her. After takeing a few to calm down I realized how stupid I was.

So, this is all I'm going to say to all that have posted here and anyone that may read this... You all need help. You want to come in here and wine, cry, complain, whatever you wanna call it because you died or was killed on a freaking video game!?!?! Damn ppl, don't you all realize how sad that is? Yes, that's exactally what I did about my friend, but I realized how pethidic of me that was. I hope one day you all realize that too. Till you do... well it's just sad is all.

/sigh /shakes head.

#26 Jul 04 2005 at 11:27 PM Rating: Default
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I'll be sure to remember that next time I see you fighting an NM and it goes unclaimed. When I take it and have to listen to your whinning about mob stealing, I'll send you a /tell with this threads URL in it. You can then scroll down and read your own words so I don't have to waste my time repeating them for you.
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