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#27 Jun 17 2005 at 9:41 PM Rating: Decent
Please i hope i dont have to say this a thousand times
IF THERE IS NO BUYER THERE WILL BE LESSER AND LESSER SELLER
demand and supply. everyone just make it a point not to jack prices on ah and if possible undercut. And please dont buy gil. Then with too much gil on hand unsold the gil selling organisation will offload the gilfarmers (in game gilsellers)
The fact that there are more and more gilsellers in game lately is a good evidence to more gil buying
end of story
#28 Jun 17 2005 at 11:29 PM Rating: Decent
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If there were no sellers to provide gil in the first place, no one would have become a buyer. Do I honestly believe that? Yes and no, at this stage it can go either way. What came first, the chicken, or the egg.

To that end, I put equal blame on the first person to ever sell an online, in-game item to another on the very first MMORPG.
#29 Jun 18 2005 at 5:41 PM Rating: Good
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Both are at fault. The gilbuyers and the gilsellers. I don't look highly on either act. :o Both I feel brought down the quality of the game.
#30 Jun 19 2005 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Although the issue is getting out of hand, and gilsellers in sky is deadly, gilsellers may also realize that sky doesn't offer everything they want. While gods to yield some great crafting materials (probably the main reason they are there), they also yeild a lot of Rare/Ex items. This makes them more proficient as well as a side-effect.

I won't say I know everything about sky. Infact, I don't even have access, so that limits my complete knowledge. But as we all know with gilsellers, without a market, they make no profit. Hell, if only 1 person buys gil, you only have 5 people sell gil. The less amount of people that buy gil, the less amount of people that will sell it. Thus, they also lose people to fight gods and NMs. 1 person cannot solo powerful NMs.

So, and I know it's been proposed many times, 'adopt a newb'. Anyone coming into the game should know that you don't need great items till endgame. Hell, if it comes down to it, say that having great items early on is bad for them, even if it is mostly a lie. If they see someone that's Rank 10 and has lots of cool equipment, they will probably have a level of respect for you. I know it isn't the only solution, but spreading the hate against gilsellers and saying buying gil will only come back to stab you in the back endgame (which is true) will help get rid of them faster then you may believe.

Just my 2 gil.
#31 Jun 19 2005 at 6:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Thats a good idea and all, but it doesn't solve the problem of the players that are already buying gil.
#32 Jun 20 2005 at 1:19 PM Rating: Default
i like how guys make it sound like gilsellers are slaves forced to camp and make gil, most of them are players too, who plays for enjoyment like rest of us. so what if they got sky access with help, havent we all gotten help? and havent they gone thru the same ZM crap to get there

sky's population is growing as we speak, gilsellers are just one small portion, and many HNMLS will act just as bad as them

my $0.02
#33 Jun 20 2005 at 6:31 PM Rating: Good
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Qtipster wrote:
i like how guys make it sound like gilsellers are slaves forced to camp and make gil, most of them are players too, who plays for enjoyment like rest of us. so what if they got sky access with help, havent we all gotten help? and havent they gone thru the same ZM crap to get there

sky's population is growing as we speak, gilsellers are just one small portion, and many HNMLS will act just as bad as them

my $0.02


The problem is not that they are there but the problem is how they do things. They have a tendency to monopolize what they camp and do whatever they can to prevent others from ever even touching it.

The fact that that 24/7 camping and hogging NMs is coming to sky is the real problem. No non-GS ls does that.
#34 Jun 21 2005 at 12:18 AM Rating: Decent
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i like how guys make it sound like gilsellers are slaves forced to camp and make gil, most of them are players too, who plays for enjoyment like rest of us. so what if they got sky access with help, havent we all gotten help? and havent they gone thru the same ZM crap to get there

sky's population is growing as we speak, gilsellers are just one small portion, and many HNMLS will act just as bad as them

my $0.02


Remind me to smack you around with a Steelshell if I ever see you in the Tree. Poor Villok wasn't having fun today when he and Aloker started farming goobbues on top of my duo camp -_- If I remember correctly, he had a misfortunate accident with a badly pulled Korigan (and his other little black buddies).
#35 Jun 26 2005 at 6:12 PM Rating: Good
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Its official. They're also after king beast hnms as well. Gilsellers killed Adamantking today. Its only a matter of time til gilsellers also go after Fafnir, KB, and Aspi.

They're trying to control all of endgame. Yet SE does nothing.

So orz.
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