Finally happensFollow

It was bound to happen. Gilsellers are now up in sky. The Ls crew/doctorman's LS

Up there right now watching, SpikeFlail I believe it is fight Kirin

Ardagarda is telling them how to do everything up there too, since he joined them.

Edited, Sun Jun 12 17:51:10 2005 by ZeroxChan

dont even get me started on that player

They killed Zipcana too. -_-

Remember, these people are idiots. If they weren't they'd have real jobs instead of earning pennies a day selling virtual currency. So just because someone is telling them how to do it doesn't mean they'll actually be smart enough to figure it out.

If they start stealing Kirin, that's when everyone starts quitting and all that will be left in FFXI will be the sellers and buyers.

Well, I just hope everyone works together to give these people as hard a time as possible. We on Ragnarok already don't have much left.

as i speculated in this post on Tue, Dec 14th 2:35 PM2004, i knew somewhere along the line it was eventually bound to happen ＾＾

Let this be the begining of a new era, where linkshells gather together from one common cause, and stop gilsellers from ******** people over...


...except fate.... **** fate...

like the vast majority of the players who started when FFXI first came out, i quit a few weeks ago. i distributed all my stuff to my LS members and a few long time FFXI friends. my mule (Funkenstein) went to my cousin, who wanted to be on Ragnarok but had a character on another world and didnt want to start over. my main character, (Xenger) went to my little brother, who plays the game quite often.

as for my reply to this post:

i took this off from another subject here in the forums, but it seems to best describe why Linkshells would never work together for one common cause.

1. Jealousy is no more than feeling alone against smiling enemies. ~Bowen, Elizabeth - 1899-1973 Anglo-Irish Novelist

2. To jealousy, nothing is more frightful than laughter. ~Sagan, Francoise - 1935 French Novelist Playwright

3. A competent and self-confident person is incapable of jealousy in anything. Jealousy is invariably a symptom of neurotic insecurity. ~Robert A. Heinlein Author 1907-1988

4. "The thermometer of success is merely the jealousy of the malcontents." ~Salvador Dali Spanish Painter 1904-1989

Edited, Tue Jun 14 11:08:55 2005 by Xenger

The solution? MPK on sight. It's easy to make it look like an accident in Sky as opposed to ground HNMs.

Just make their lives a living hell and they'll leave eventually. A lot of JP's are doing it.

It would be nice for us to have a reason to come together and have a common enemy. I always wondered what could be accomplished if some of us could actually put aside our differences and work together. I know it's too idealistic because there are so many people that are too consumed with themselves. You see it everywhere, LS fueds, backstabbing, all because of some perception of power or lack of power that motivates people to such greedy meaningless extremes. If people could just set it aside for a minute and all selflessly work for some common good it would be amazing what we could do. To me, it's really a horrible tragedy. -Boog

There seriously is nothing you can do to "stop" the gil sellers. There has been MANY times where I have got a lot of the gil sellers to tell me pretty much everything about their "job", boss, where they are from, etc... And at the same time while talking to a GM and you know what those same accounts are ALL still active. Just before my departure from FFXI I became pretty damn vigilant against the gil sellers by PK'ing, harrassing, pulling trains on them, just about everything that has been done to me and yet they stayed at the same spot no matter what time of day I showed up.

From repeat after repeat of GM calls about the gil sellers and what they were doing only 1 GM actually threw a group of them to GM jail for about 1 hour... or so I was told. So my final weeks in FFXI were dedicated into PK'ing any and every gil seller possible. I actually had so much more fun doing that than actually playing FFXI. Eventually I tried to make a Anti-Gil Seller LS and it worked out for a few days where everyone whould just pick a zone and do anything to stop the gil sellers. This included all the norm, PK's, trains, bringing in 30+ people for certain NM spawns, sleeping NM's for hours and then passing on the NM to a replacement for more hours to sleep, calling GM's on them, using Provoke hacks, pretty much anything.

Quitting the game will not even stop the gil sellers as I have found out. I wrote a letter to Square-Enix that detailed everything that I learned about the gil sellers, their accounts, boss accounts, where they were from, the fact that they pretty much said that yes they work to make gil to give to their boss, screenshots of this and my conversations with GM's, screenshots of AH prices and who has sold a certain item... constantly. I passed on the same list of gil seller names that I have put up on the message boards to SE and said if these gil sellers do not go, I will go.

A month later I see that FFXI puts out a message saying the are dropping a lot of accounts because of "Violations against TOS". So I came back to the game and guess what... all our sellers are still active and not only that they even have more seller accounts popping up. So I look at other server message boards and gil sellers are all still running around doing the same stuff as usual.

Aside from we as players trying to stop them, aside from SE trying to "stop" them, it is too damn easy for them to just buy a new account and start all over again from scratch. Fighting it is pretty worthless in my eyes, because the more I fought against people like our first server known gil sellers Hpc and Logitech the more accounts they added and the more NM's the started to camp. Now not only do they claim NM's, but HNM's and Gods.

These gil sellers are not stupid either. Most of these accounts that you see are college students just like many of you. The only difference is that they get paid to play the game, while you just pay to play. This makes a huge difference because they have to make gil and will do so at any means available to them.

Damn I really don't like SE anymore and I probably will never play another one of their games because of the crap they let continue in this FFXI game. It was fun while it lasted but FFXI is on its last leg and unless they actually take a stand against this it will just continue to get worse.

/end of rant :(

The best I can think of that we can do is: keep writing letters to SE about it every little while. And call GMs and get updates on their plans on what to do. And keep doing it. o_x

Hopefully SE steps in sooner or later, but I'm not keeping my hopes up.