I want to start a new linkshell and I want to know if it seems like a good idea or if anyone is interested. I want it to be strictly a fallback/secondary linkshell for people with jobs 50 to 60. It seems like whenever I get a job 50 to 60 everything slows down with AF and level break quests, and my "fun" linkshell of friends cannot always help me get this stuff done.
So this linkshell will only do 2 things: AF and level break quests. I will schedule something different for every day.
For Example: MON: Eldieme Nec. Coffer Key
TUE: G2
WED: Palidan Lvl 60 AF fight ... etc.
I'm thinking of making it more of a tool for help, you don't have to go to every event but everyone would realize they would have to help sometimes in order to get help when they need it..
...anyways, just an idea let me know what you think
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sounds nice but i have one concern.. it seems to be too strict.
i dont know but for me, an ls is still a group of people having fun even when doing something productive. if you insist that its purely business, it wudnt be fun anymore. altho on the other hand your idea does seem to be for a good cause. maybe people dont have to actually be on the ls always, but the leader should invite the people who want to help on his/her friend list and add the prefix [HELP LS] (or something) before the name. just contact those people when u need help or when there is a scheduled activity.
my 2 cents. :p
i dont know but for me, an ls is still a group of people having fun even when doing something productive. if you insist that its purely business, it wudnt be fun anymore. altho on the other hand your idea does seem to be for a good cause. maybe people dont have to actually be on the ls always, but the leader should invite the people who want to help on his/her friend list and add the prefix [HELP LS] (or something) before the name. just contact those people when u need help or when there is a scheduled activity.
my 2 cents. :p
I like it and I'm a MNK48.
If you need members pls /tell me ingame.
My charname is Xiliath
If you need members pls /tell me ingame.
My charname is Xiliath
While I think the concept is good in principle, I'm unsure how successful it will be in practice.
Perhaps I am wrong, but I believe a linkshell is similar to a family. You help each other in the good times and the bad times.
It is the shared struggles and triumphs that make the bonds between members of a linkshell strong.
*Example 1*
For example, myself and 2 other people in the linkshell were helping out another member get his AF Helm. While on the way through Garlaige Citadel, we had a mishap and fought some explosures ---long story/result----> explosures went boom, we became suddenly dead.
Two fellow members of our linkshell valiently came to try to raise our carcasses. But unfortunately, our bodies were sitting in the short tunnel between the explosures rooms before you come upon the stairs leading towards banishing gate3.
The first rescuer died after attracting an explosure by casting raise. A third member of our linkshell, whm55 I believe, rushed from jeuno to try to restore us to the living.
Luckily for us, a bst was in the area and happened to come upon our unfortunate incident and killed one of the explosures to provide a pocket of room for the newly arrived whm to start raising us.
After we got back on our feet, we went through banishing gate 3, couldn't find the coffer for our linkshell member. We then proceeded to banishing gate 2 and couldn't find the coffer there either....probably someone got the coffer just before us and it hadn't respawned yet.
We decided to try to kill mobs behind banishing gate 2 for a while in the hopes that the coffer would spawn closeby and also to try to get a few coffer keys for various members.
60-90 minutes later, when we were about to leave, we did a final check of the spawn points and virtually right in front of me, the coffer spawns....our friend gets his af helm and our primary goal is accomplished.
While our primary goal was accomplished, it did not come without a cost...One of our linkshell members died four times that night :( , a few of us died once.
This willingness to sacrifice and help out a linkshell members complete a goal is a price we are willing to pay because of the bonds of affection, respect and friendship we hold for each other.
Later on that night, we were able to get two coffer keys to drop for people :)
*Example 2*
Castle O. ~ I was able to solo it /cheer myself on .... j/k ... but I did solo it without dying
Finishing up G3 - a fellow linkshell member offers to help me to finish it today .... Thank you RMorMK (you know who you are I /salute you).
Beadeaux ~ no mishaps, smooth sailing to get the quadav crest.
Davoi ~ Just want to say, I always hated this place. We had to finish the mini-quest to get the charm to take down the wall to enter the second part of Mon. Caverns. We had to touch the wall first before we could talk to the taru npc to get the mini-quest. This is where I blame myself for our calamity, I had summoned a pet to attack an orc guarding the wall and unfortunately, my pet didn't grab the attention of all the orcs :( We ran back to the island with the npc taru and promptly died there. Luckily for us, a nearby rdm raised out lifeless bodies. We then proceeded to complete the mini-quest to get the charm, and we then proceeded to get the orcish charm. So in helping me complete G3, my fellow linkshell member died; and consequentially, deleveled and couldn't wear his pimp hat anymore :( I will most definitely help him if he requires any help I can offer him in the future....maybe the LS can organize an Eldieme coffer run for you and a few others?
In conclusion, I don't think there is anything wrong with having membership in multiple linkshells, but how committed will you be to a strictly "Business Linkshell" that members populate only when they need help? How many times are you willing to die to help someone out? I believe a feeling of ennui or disenfrancisement will eventually seep into the people who are committing alot of time, energy and effort without any tangible return....or how will you keep the "Helpers" energized, enthusiastic, and continue their willingness to help the "Helpees" in the long run? I think that is the fundlemental question.
Perhaps I am wrong, but I believe a linkshell is similar to a family. You help each other in the good times and the bad times.
It is the shared struggles and triumphs that make the bonds between members of a linkshell strong.
*Example 1*
For example, myself and 2 other people in the linkshell were helping out another member get his AF Helm. While on the way through Garlaige Citadel, we had a mishap and fought some explosures ---long story/result----> explosures went boom, we became suddenly dead.
Two fellow members of our linkshell valiently came to try to raise our carcasses. But unfortunately, our bodies were sitting in the short tunnel between the explosures rooms before you come upon the stairs leading towards banishing gate3.
The first rescuer died after attracting an explosure by casting raise. A third member of our linkshell, whm55 I believe, rushed from jeuno to try to restore us to the living.
Luckily for us, a bst was in the area and happened to come upon our unfortunate incident and killed one of the explosures to provide a pocket of room for the newly arrived whm to start raising us.
After we got back on our feet, we went through banishing gate 3, couldn't find the coffer for our linkshell member. We then proceeded to banishing gate 2 and couldn't find the coffer there either....probably someone got the coffer just before us and it hadn't respawned yet.
We decided to try to kill mobs behind banishing gate 2 for a while in the hopes that the coffer would spawn closeby and also to try to get a few coffer keys for various members.
60-90 minutes later, when we were about to leave, we did a final check of the spawn points and virtually right in front of me, the coffer spawns....our friend gets his af helm and our primary goal is accomplished.
While our primary goal was accomplished, it did not come without a cost...One of our linkshell members died four times that night :( , a few of us died once.
This willingness to sacrifice and help out a linkshell members complete a goal is a price we are willing to pay because of the bonds of affection, respect and friendship we hold for each other.
Later on that night, we were able to get two coffer keys to drop for people :)
*Example 2*
Castle O. ~ I was able to solo it /cheer myself on .... j/k ... but I did solo it without dying
Finishing up G3 - a fellow linkshell member offers to help me to finish it today .... Thank you RMorMK (you know who you are I /salute you).
Beadeaux ~ no mishaps, smooth sailing to get the quadav crest.
Davoi ~ Just want to say, I always hated this place. We had to finish the mini-quest to get the charm to take down the wall to enter the second part of Mon. Caverns. We had to touch the wall first before we could talk to the taru npc to get the mini-quest. This is where I blame myself for our calamity, I had summoned a pet to attack an orc guarding the wall and unfortunately, my pet didn't grab the attention of all the orcs :( We ran back to the island with the npc taru and promptly died there. Luckily for us, a nearby rdm raised out lifeless bodies. We then proceeded to complete the mini-quest to get the charm, and we then proceeded to get the orcish charm. So in helping me complete G3, my fellow linkshell member died; and consequentially, deleveled and couldn't wear his pimp hat anymore :( I will most definitely help him if he requires any help I can offer him in the future....maybe the LS can organize an Eldieme coffer run for you and a few others?
In conclusion, I don't think there is anything wrong with having membership in multiple linkshells, but how committed will you be to a strictly "Business Linkshell" that members populate only when they need help? How many times are you willing to die to help someone out? I believe a feeling of ennui or disenfrancisement will eventually seep into the people who are committing alot of time, energy and effort without any tangible return....or how will you keep the "Helpers" energized, enthusiastic, and continue their willingness to help the "Helpees" in the long run? I think that is the fundlemental question.
lol omg thats me!!! the guy who got his af helm XD hehe yeh that was a mishap (sorry van x.x) damn bomb blew us to bits. anyway yeh i see vans point and i share similar views on it :) ever since i joined this game i always looked at the linkshell as more as just a group but a fellowship of friends.
anway if u can make this work, i may join. but i wont be there always and chances are, il just login to the LS, know what to do and when we go out to do it with formed parties and such, il swap back in my ls (i love my ls ^^).
btw van, thanks for helping me with the helm :D im now proudly wearing it :D booyehh XD
anway if u can make this work, i may join. but i wont be there always and chances are, il just login to the LS, know what to do and when we go out to do it with formed parties and such, il swap back in my ls (i love my ls ^^).
btw van, thanks for helping me with the helm :D im now proudly wearing it :D booyehh XD
Congratulations Als :) You put on the fuzzy-wuzzy helmet.
3 more levels until we can duo.
I'm currently crafting and trying to find the map for Sea serpent grotto.
See you ingame Als.
3 more levels until we can duo.
I'm currently crafting and trying to find the map for Sea serpent grotto.
See you ingame Als.
its a wonderful idea.....heres my experience.
As a whm you are always asked to help(its our job)... one linkshell I was involved with for a long time...I was always helping out...and helping the random people they picked to help. Ive put up with rude whms for g3's (I was also a whm with enough experience as a nonwhm to know how NOT to treat people - "I'm the whm this pt will break if I leave" "Your pt is too far away"-/disband) I have worked with obnoxious BRDs for their AF, helped the ls leaders with their af's....etc etc...and spent 1 year w/o getting any help for my af from this "helpful" ls. (I did countless G1,G2, ranks, af, proms,nm hunts for this shell - so I became a bit burnt out by them)
SO quite honestly, this sort of a shell is a great idea but people will end up being used. The same people that get help only a small percentage will actually help out.
As a whm you are always asked to help(its our job)... one linkshell I was involved with for a long time...I was always helping out...and helping the random people they picked to help. Ive put up with rude whms for g3's (I was also a whm with enough experience as a nonwhm to know how NOT to treat people - "I'm the whm this pt will break if I leave" "Your pt is too far away"-/disband) I have worked with obnoxious BRDs for their AF, helped the ls leaders with their af's....etc etc...and spent 1 year w/o getting any help for my af from this "helpful" ls. (I did countless G1,G2, ranks, af, proms,nm hunts for this shell - so I became a bit burnt out by them)
SO quite honestly, this sort of a shell is a great idea but people will end up being used. The same people that get help only a small percentage will actually help out.
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Well theres no sence in not trying this out so if anyone is interested send a /tell to my ingame character Haunted and I'll get you a linkshell.
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O ya, and I think maybe I didn't explain what I meant by fallback or secondary linkshell.. I don't want this to be people's main linkshell that they go to chat with friends and get help with various things. I want people to maybe keep this in thier inventory or moghouse and when they see that they need to get an AF or level break quest done they equip it and see what day there will be a group of people doing this.
I think it may not work at first but if I can get enough people to join and give it a chance to grow it may work.
I think it may not work at first but if I can get enough people to join and give it a chance to grow it may work.
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