Came across this on KI Ragnarok forumFollow

Granted the picture makes Cremonte look like a total ***. You have to think honestly if you would do that yourself? I know I would, as well as many many others. It's just the way things go. I wouldnt take a picture if I did it, and I definately wouldnt post it on the internet, but to each his own.

What can I say, it's Ragnarok...

Oh, ****.

Cremonte's in one of my LSs. I don't wanna be associated with people who pull this crap.

Nah, can kill solo or duo :x

The temptation is there I understand since a lot of HNM tend to get kited at some point and can go unclaimed but taking it when the claiming group had it and was having no problems is unneeded. I wish people had more common courteousy for other groups when it came to stuff like this regardless of whether it's stealing claim or showing up at the very last minute to camp a nm and taking it from someone by using unneeded methods like making trains on purpose to ***** up the chance of claim >_>. I've had that happen multiple times on a specific NM I'm trying to hunt so I can use the gear while the people that usually pull this crap I see selling the item on ah >_>.

Stealing claim = bad. Common courteousy = good. But this is online and a game so the chance that everyone suddenly becomes upstanding ffxi citizens is somewhere between a snowball's chance in hell and the pope lighting a bible on fire.

I feel like a rank n00b because my reaction, upon viewing the OP's linked SS, is "But, but, but, it's impossible for someone else to claim your already-claimed mob! Everyone knows that!"

I'd never encountered this. Obviously is this stuff actually occurs, SE needs to fix that exploit.

"Kiyashi, that's called trio not duo. Learn to count."

considering the WHM was there only for if the club dropped and get it and didn't help out it's DUO, learn to stop jumping to conclusions -.-

I fail to see what will come of me defending myself, but I guess there's not much else I can do to fend off the people who feel it their God-given right to message me in game when they had nothing to do it, harassing me on my lack of etiquette, spreading gossip and stretching the truth more than is ******* feasible off of the internet.

Yea, I was wrong spamming Flash on it. I can say the same for the people I was with, too. Though it doesn't make it right, I say to people saying I should have been "banned on the spot", that people like me don't "deserve to live" and things more or less farfetched, if a mob goes yellow twice that drops a, what is it now, 20 mil? item, would you try to claim it?

Of course, this being the internet with people wholely righteous, following only what is good! and never doing wrong, many will say no. Whatever, no stopping you. You're perfect people and would gladly give 20mil to someone else. Would love to see some of you in that situation though.

Regardless though, yeah my group stole it. Yes it's wrong, and being that I can't speak for the people I was with, I can say only for myself that I regret it. Can you people get off my ******* *** though? Now I MPK everyone I come across paths with that I dislike, now I hack accounts of people in other LS' to spy and steal information, now I bot NMs and flood people with packets so they lag out and I can steal claim.

I love personal attacks, I really do.

Being villianized for stealing claim I can understand, being singled out for saying "LOL" quite a few times, I can sort of understand too. Having people telling me not to MPK because I stole LoO from Zenmetsu... okay now that I don't get.

Oh, and again even though this doesn't make me any less of a ****, of a jackass for taking someone elses mob, a trio (NIN/DRK/RDM) stole it from us about 5 seconds after we got claim, got it down to low HP, then had it go through another unclaim fiasco only to have Zen reclaim it.

What can I say. I'm sorry. Get the **** off my ***, please.

credibility = 0 *copy and paste to KI*

Asherek, you seem quite offended by the whole topic. Next time you log on to the game, ask TShoT if they lost the pull on a mob, yet for one reason or another it goes yellow and they have a chance to claim it, if they would. I assure you there is more people than you think that would do it. If it goes yellow, there must be a reason it goes yellow, its part of the game mechanics, not some random glitch (because obviously this has happened more than once). I'm in Lemonade now, and if we somehow (probably would require some kind of divine intervention) gained claim on Fafnir, and we let it slip to yellow, and lost claim on it, my personal opinion would be "oh well thats just how it goes". At this point it should just be understood, not neccessarily accepted but, that's just how the game works sometimes, and you'll win some and you'll lose some.

I'm not saying that I agree that this should be part of the game, infact I think that it should be fixed so that if you win pull the monster is yours untill you kill it, or it kills you (or zone away). Im simply saying that it is part of the game, and we've just got to deal with it and base our play around the knowledge of this.

Side note: I haven't rated down anyone with a different opinion than I have, I ask the same courtesy in return.



Edited, Sat Apr 2 02:55:34 2005 by Percie

I have no doubt in my mind there would be people who would be willing to do it. Every person has their own opinion. That's fine.

However, LS rule is NOT to do it and as far as the rule is for those, we won't bow down to it. I can't speak for everyone, but we abide by this rule unanimously simply because as I said a "free-for-all" is simply not fun at all.

What's next? Griefing tactics at HNM constantly? Noone would ever get anything killed if that started becoming rampant. Do you realize how easy it would be an opposing LS that lost claim to cause Fafnir to Spike Flail?

Sad... my b-list grows larger every day. Kinda crap that makes people quit the game

As off topic as it maybe.

Mannyfresh wrote:


Kiyashi you're a 73 THF, that said you have 0 added merits for AGI, or evasion. Don't act for one second that WHM wasn't assisting you or the other THF with cures and haste, not to mention blindna.


It's not called jumping to conclusions, rather it's simple logic.