OMG, It Finally Happened?!?Follow

They created new chars and now leveling them...i saw them in valkurm and in qufim last week...(doctorman,catwoman,and stupid names like these)..i saw them all /following zhuque -_-
guess he plays p lvls them :x

ffxi 60+ is just drama and making u go > :| < :p

OMG! Like 30 minutes later I get another invite in Boyahda Tree. We partied for a bit and then the RDM has to leave. Who comes as a replacement? LOSEWU! So I tell the party and say I can't party with the gilseller. The leader says this:

Bardon, "ffs i dont care is she is a gilseller or not she made a good party members today so i dont care. a rdm is a rdm."

Heziki, "Well you help the gilsellers then. When you try to hunt gods later remember I told you not to.

Bardon, "its up to them whether they sell gil or not its a way of making money." (which is true)


What the crap is the matter with people?



Edit Okay... I helped poor Bardon understand and he just made Losewu stand there... Apparently the last party I mentioned didn't keep her either.

Edited, Sat Mar 19 01:45:05 2005 by Heziki

Zhurque (sp) has had the ZM4 completion title before, Bearer of a Wiseman's Hope. So they have completed partial sky if not all ZM runs at least. However, this was about two months ago I saw he/she/it with that title.

Gilsellers sinder jindi parispring danen fredrick sussan respect the power of GMs and no longer try to steal oldschool hnm from me. ":3 GMs are becoming more useful these days despite the rules being updated one whole year ago. ":3

Or maybe they aren't gilsellers and just like camping amemet 24/7 with the ls folk.

Keep it silenced and don't let non-blink tanks tank X3

So I see it gets worse. These days MY LS and I have been doing alot of events. Running around back and forth trying to do End Game stuff. And I see now that its not the gilsellers anymore that we're having trouble with, But its with the players who we leveled with, exp'd with, did missions/quests with... How sad how someone you have known for so long can just quickly come up and "steal" a mob which you have spent countless hours trying to get claim for.

Is it really worth it? People who you have known for so long. To pick a 5,000,000G+ drop over people who you have gained the respect from. People who have gave you the kindness of their hearts to be online friends with you in a game where you will never meet or greet each other in real life.

I understand that some people say, "Its only a game, we will never meet in real life so I dont give a damn!" But, what ever happened to morals?

I am only posting this again is because a couple days ago some LS members of mine went to go camp HNM. While they were there they lost pull on the mob. Lets just say, Group A made the pull. MY fellow LS mates was just sitting there, watching the fight and trying to get the TOD so they could go camp it the next day. While Group A kites the mob around, Group B decides to "steal" HNM. HNM turns yellow and Group A loses the mob to Group B.

All of a sudden, our LS is spammed with messages. "OMG, "Group B" just stole HNM from "Group A"!". Everyone was /shocked how they would do this. It turns out that Group B's LS Leader was a long time FFXI friend of mine. So, I decide to give him a /tell and see why he would let his LS members do such a thing.

Conversation went as follows:

Me>> you busy?
friend>> whats up?
me>> it seems like some of your LS members just stole a mob from another LS. why?
friend>> so it seems like our LS is doing a good job
me>> good job? how's that good??? what ever happened to the morals of camping HNMs?
friend>> dude, JPs monopolize all HNMs and get it all the time. why would you want them to always have pull? at least my LS can take the mob from them.
me>> O.O
me>> why would you do such a thing like that? i thought you was cooler then that. if it were gilsellers, i'd probably get a laugh at it. but its other players man!
friend>> you know what, STFU. we'll do whatever we want. its a f*cking game! who cares what we do, as long as we get the claim.
me>> if you say so...
me>> as for me, my LS and I have rules against that. we'll never do such a thing. we have alot more respect for others and have morals we live and stand by.
friend>> stfu b*tch you're black listed.
me>> ...

All I am saying is, I cant believe how people can throw away the bonds and relationships they have made over the year on FFXI just to earn a few Gil. I thought that MMORPG games were meant so players can interact with each other and build special bonds to accomplish certain goals where it takes more then a few good players to beat? Maybe thats just standards I live and stand by.

I'm not here to put anyone down, or point fingers at anyone, or say any names/LS's. I'm just here to give everyone my 2Gils. Thanks for listening! :D

It's funny how some people change when they get to a decent level. I've watched a lot of people go from a lot of fun to being someone who I wouldn't want to talk to. And the excuse is always the same. It's just a game. But the ones who say that seem to be the ones who spend the most time on it and are the ones most concerned with having the best of the best gear and the most status items.

In all the threads about gilsellers, I think I always said that they weren't the only problem. That normal players did this too. It's sad to see more and more of these stories being posted here. Some people justify it with well this group does it so we are doing it so we get a fair chance. Heck, go back a few months to the stroper chyme threads and people being proud that they trained on the gil sellers. And see how those who spoke out against that were basically ignored. But we spoke out against it because we knew that it wouldn't stop with these actions being done to the gil sellers. It would carry over to everyone else. If these tactics score them a so called win against that group, why wouldn't they use it against another knowing they will succeed?

Nobody will dispute that they are the root of the problem. But people started doing these tactics to fight back and it spread to other players. That's the other half of the problem. People let the same greed for the items in game drive them into ******** over other legit players. I've camped nms where there were no gil sellers about and watched the same tactics take place. In some cases, these were for rare/ex items. What's the excuse? Who were they trying to defend a monopoly against?

People get so hung up on the gil sellers, they seem to ignore that the problem exists with other players.

That's always been my issue, that they do make the problem worse. It's bad enough when you have to worry about one group doing it. But it's to the point now that if SE were to get rid of the gil sellers, it'd be hard to guarantee anything would chance because there are enough of people who use those same tactics on everyone.

I just think it's time the players actually start holding each other accountable when they use the same tactics. And I will say, I've been quite pleased to see more people not keeping the stories quiet. But at the same time, I'm quite saddened that this problem exists among the normal players.

I guess I agree with the old saying that two wrongs don't make a right in this case. By using their tactics against them to combat them, they just made it much, much worse.