OMG, It Finally Happened?!?Follow

I read on SE's site that they kicked 800+ overcampers and MPK'ers... Maybe I read it wrong but that was a while ago. I dunno...

They only kicked mpkers and people that use grief tactics... while missing gil sellers that use grief tactics and ruin the game entirely.

Gil sellers have been killing gods recently.... a friend has told me she saw a few wearing cursed gear last night.... I was like... uhm... o_o;

I know so many people that vowed to leave this game when gil sellers started fighting gods. I'm one of them.

On other servers... gil sellers have been known to be trying to steal behemoth and other HNMs. Also recently on THIS server.... a friend of mine saw them running to the aspi pop area.....................

What's the point of playing anymore if you can't even enjoy the endgame?
All thats left now is dynamis. Soon gil sellers will be camping triggers 24/7. And stealing all HNMs and mpking people for them. Gil sellers are also in all level ranges so you'll even be partying with them sometimes! @_x;

And yet... SE only punishes the normal players. And tells us to stop reporting gil sellers!

Uh.

Ok.

I doubt I'm long for this game. SEs allowed gil sellers to zap away some of the last bit of fun / experience in FFXI. I'll just finish a few last things at least then decide what to do.

Or maybe we should plan a mass "stop payment" day as a strike for SE to do something about gil sellers? They don't fix the game, they don't get our money? Dunno, just an idea... not like they can't reopen the accounts. o_o;

I'm at least going to write an unpset letter to SE. x_x dunno what else I'm going to do for sure yet.

Well... they already do gods. Some have cursed gear already. ~_~

What can we do about this? SE listens to nothing. They don't even want us to report them anymore. Wtf.

What's the point of playing if the only way you can get new gear is by farming....kinda defeats the whole purpose of the game.

There isn't much we can do about it, but wait until they either move to another MMORPG, or ppl stop buying the gil they are selling. We already pay $15+ a month, why the hell would you pay more just to have alot of "Fake" money >.>
The true fault is at the hands of those who buy the gil. Gilsellers are just doing what they do cause there is a profit in it.

Very simple formula :

Demand + supply = problem

solution to solve this problem

Take away "demand" or "supply" then there is no more problem.

I still dont understand the problem. Ive never had a problem with a gilseller. Of course i probably dont because of my lvl. And i havent had a terrible time with prices either. i farm regularly. Ranting SE doesnt make any difference. so whats the point ?

I already saw them in Sky like mid Dec 2004???

Hmmm. Only half right.


Removing the supply has no effect on the demand. In fact it will only increase the demand and that would only inspire others to meet that demand and open new lines of supply.

Supply is a direct product of demand. If there is no demand then there will be no supply due to the lack of interest. However, this game requires you to make money, and make it through increasingly time consuming means. Thus the demand for cash is always high. Alternative means of meeting that demand will of course always appear as a result.


The most obvious solution, is also the least effective. One would assume that if the ability to aquire gil in game were not as time consuming, people would be less likely to seek other means of acqurig it. However if the currency is more readily available, and larger amounts of it enter circulation as a result, the overall value drops, those creating an inflationary state where prices climb. So the currency is easier to acquire but is now worth less so now you need to acquire more to meet the same needs.

Oddly, this is NOT something that happens (exactly) when a person buys currency through RMT. SquareEnix is the only one who controls the value of currency by controlling its availability. new money is injected into the game via beastmen drops and sales to NPCs and Guilds. Gill sellers can only move around exiting money. So their funds are already factored into the game by SE and impact absolutely nothing in traditional economic terms. It's no better or worse than the person who sits on their money in a cookie jar and then one day goes and spends it all at the mall.

SE understand this, it's why the prices of all fish were slashed in half in the last update. Fishermen were responsible for far too much new currency flowing into the economy.

Stil the problem exists, how to create an easier means of obtaining currency, which would obviate the need for a secondary supply channel (gil sellers) and not unbalance the economy even further.

The solution isn't simple. We are hard wired as humans to accept a certain amount of effort in exchange for results, we are also hard wired to look for was to minimize effort while maximizing the results of that effort. End result.. a half dozen clicks and a couple of IRL $$ are an easier effort than several hours farming in a game for the same results.

Proof of the willingness of most people to part with money in exchange for 'free time' is the entire IRL concept of comp-time. THe exchange of overtime pay for vacation time. We gladly give up 1.5 times out rate of pay for 1 hour of vacation time. in effect, 'buyin' it from our employers. No way you are ever going to change the willingness of people to pay for leisure time. And THAT is your main problem. People see buying gil as exchanging work time for leisure time....and gil SELLERS are only providing a highly in demand service. Plain and simple.

Oh, on a side note, I agree, in principle at least, to the idea that certain drops should be RARE/EX. EQ has a far better solutionl. Some items in game can be kept by you and you may have several of the item. However it may not sold or traded to another player or placed for sale. You have the options only to Store, equip, repair, or destroy the item.


Edited, Thu Mar 17 12:20:31 2005 by airamis

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Well I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later. Wish I could come up with a solution myself. Until SE feels their income threatened I doubt they can/would do anything about rmt people.

Xenger grats on rng75 looks like your nearly done with thf also. I'm coming back pretty soon holler at the ls for me!

Square-Enix trying to get rid of gill sellers is like spraying windex on Cancer. Even if they ban 800 accounts,whats to stop those banned gillsellers from just starting new accounts?

Even if SE banned 800 accounts, or they said they did... Its the blame of the people who quit and/or sell their accounts to gilselling websites. From this, the gilsellers just use those accounts to come back and start farming for gil again. This will NEVER stop. My opinion? SE should just make it to where the original Account user holds that account only, and if the Credit Card/Billing name/info changes, to just auto ban/delete that account. Thus eliminating some of our problems. \(^.^)/

What REALLY bums me out is that I never can get a party and they're leveling faster than me ~_~

Meh, I've never seen one gilseller with any title relating to Zilart Missions, any cursed gear, haven't seen them fighting any gods, haven't even seen then anywhere past Zi'Tah. Nothing at all related to Tu'Lia.

Although yes, they have been camping Serket, Cassie, Simurgh, Roc, Adamantoise.. etc.

The closest thing they've come to achieving something like Tu'Lia is however they got 1-2 optical hats. Which was basically leeching off "friends."