Quick RantFollow

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Bring sushi prices back down. They were 23k at one point for sole sushi...now they are 37k last night. Jesus I'm not a ranger and eatting red curry.

/Rant off

Look at the person that jacked the prices up...same damn *******....I am sending him a tell tonight.

Kinda makes me sad...everyone blames Gil sellers about the jump in AH prices...

Just look for example at what this guy just did. Jacked the prices up even more. It's the players that do this. They see one maybe two items up in the AH and want to get as much money for this item and they know someone will pay so they jack the price up even more. then the player behind him comes and does the same thing just a couple more thousand more. Why do you think snippers went from 350k to over 600k now.

And these prices will continue to rise. Then we continue to ***** about prices.

Fire crystal prices are ridiculous. Last time I checked the Windurst AH they were up to 4700 a stack, and on a fast track to breaking 5k.

There's no reason for this. You can't tell me that fire crystals are a rarer commodity than light crystals, yet they're over a thousand gil more expensive per stack?

Okay, that's all the whining I'm gonna do. (yeah right) ^_^

Fishing = Crft too.

I agree to much of what was said here.

I have something I'd like to focus on for a bit though.



It's not about rarity.

Supply/Demand as well as how it can be applied to the game.

Crafters all around Vana'diel use Fire Crystals. Anyone in a craft uses one. At least once, making something. Light Crystals? Less used. Used to be 10k+ a stack. Reason? So many uses (Rusty Caps) now they aren't as good as they used to be, so the price fell.

If something is in high demand (Fire Crystals) Price will go up, same with Sushis.

Btw, has anyone noticed that everything is outrageous? Even if the item is something nobody wants, it costs you a fortune.

Inflation, and Supply and Demand.

They will destroy any economy, there needs to be a ceiling for all of this, otherwise as prices increase, money in the server would have to somehow be increased. Otherwise people in Jeuno shouting something along the lines of:

"(Leaping Boots} (Do you need it?) (/tell) <me> 5,000,000"

It will get that bad if we let it. There is something that the supply/demand chart has.

There's more to it.

There is Price/Demand/Supply. All are very reliant on each other.

It comes down to a chart.

|.
|..\..../ <-- Price
|...\../
|....\/
|..../\
|.../..\
|../....\
|./......\
|/........\ <-- Demand
L____________


Now, as the graph (poorly) Illustrates, as Price goes up, Demand goes down. This is a basic thought about how the economy works.

There will be something called "Equilibrium" where things will be equal. Price = Demand (In a graphical sense). The price will be high enough that Demand will be enough that the price will be at maximum so they make the most money.

So, as price goes up, demand goes down.
Or, as price goes down, demand goes up.

This is something that's sometimes applied.

The only problem with this, as it's a virtual economy, it's more like this.
__________ <- Top bar - Demand
|...../
|..../
|.../ <- Price
|../
|./
|/
L-----------

Kind of hard to put on a graph, but as Price goes up, Demand remains the same. Everyone wants it, and will do what's needed to obtain it.

In order to keep the prices lower there has to be someone (or someones) willing to say "Ok, this is wrong."

You can say it, and rant and rave, but it's not going to get your work done for you.

I've talked about this before, but people are more focused on themselves, when a group effort is needed.

You could always do something along the lines of Not buying it (Boycotting, I believe).
Making your own, or set the price yourself. You and your friends go ahead and buy it for 37k. You then sell it back a lot lower price, to yourself, or someone in your LS or something. The price will instantly sell, as it's the lowest there is.

Once you've flooded the "Price History" List with you selling the item at XX Price, people should see it, and assume that it's the price that's now being used as the main focal price.

Might not always work, but worth a try. You'd even get your money back from your LS mates if you did it with them.

There are a lot of ways to do what you are asking, but if takes a community effort. No better way than to say "Everyone, Ragnarok as a whole has to do something."

This game is a MMORPG for a reason, it's supposed to be a group effort to get things done. 1 man can do something, but a lot can change the world ;)

ASCII Art gets you a Rateup. Very colorful Depection, as it's laid down Harder then an Open bar in Ireland.

Good Stuff, and Good night :)

well,

It has happened.

Sole Sushi is now back to 29k a stack, which seems pretty much reasonable.

Great graphs Rob. I agree with everyone here. It is not only Sole sushi but everything on the AH has gotten way over priced. Leaping boots are not that cool! They are just the "hip" thing to have and everyone must have a pair. So then we have the people who camp them all day and all night (even when sleeping if you catch my meaning) and then they decide what the prices will be. A friend of mine sat and camped the LL for 4 days and watched the same person somehow be on top of the pop even before it popped most of the times. He asked the guy later when he saw him how he did it and he was told it was a secret, he also told him that he got the drop 5 times and was getting them to sell for profit and wanted to get the price to 1Mil as soon as he could. I am not sure how many of us actually come onto this forum but there has got to be a way to stop the prices! I fish as my craft and while fishing I was trying to help bring the cost of moat carp down to a reasonable price. I got /telled from another fisherman who actually yelled at me and called me a noob because I was dropping hte prices and taking away his profit. This guy was ALWAYS fishing so he should have still been making money off his fish. Not sure what else to say and this has probly been the longest post I have had on here so far. I say we should all get together though and maybe discuss what we can do to get the prices down. Maybe even set up an LS dedicated to lowering the AH prices by going out and farming together and camping the monsters that need their drops lowered. If that is feasable please message me in the game. My name there is the same as it is here.

uhm, most gilsellers are not raising the prices of NM drops..
It's the occasional campers that do that.

I'm not saying gilsellers are good for the economy, but they tend to keep the prices steady.

Demand is unlikely to decrease, so the only way to get price down is to increase supply and competition. Encourage your LS mates to raise their fishing and cooking skills.

(I know, I know: You already knew this, and were just blowin off steam. But still, it's the only way)

It's been mentioned before.

I've heard about a Merchant Linkshell once. Selling stuff outside of the Auction House. People send their request(s) to a member of that LS and someone hunts is for the price, which is determined by the Merchant Linkshel. (below Auction House price ofcourse). I don't think it will work, since people are insane enough to pay for the current prices, however ridiculous they are now. Though I'd like to see people trying it.

Edited, Fri Mar 11 08:09:10 2005 by Gwedolyne

Edited, Fri Mar 11 08:06:43 2005 by Gwedolyne