DisappointmentFollow

Ok, I guess this will be my first time ranting on here, but I think what I have to say is important.
Sunday night I along with a few others went to do the Rank 10 Sandy BCNM fight. While we were waiting a party of lvl 50 or so's came out all dead but 1. They had been doing the Rank 6 mission. The poor melee that was the only surviver asked nicely if one of the whms could raise 2 their whm. That is all he asked for, not for the to raise the whole party, just the whm. The alliance I was with proceeded to call this poor party a bunch of noobs and told them to go back to valk. The whm that was with us did raise the party's whm, but was very rude about it and told them to stfu. I sent a /tell to the whm and to the melee and told them that I was very sorry about how they were acting, and that they did not speak for me.
The whm then later asked me if by chance since we were waiting, if we could help him get his AF body which invold a NM fight. Being that most of us were lvl 70+ I knew we could, but all said no. This poor whm is not a member of a high lvl LS and did not know any high lvls to help him. I managed to talk him out of soloing it and told him that I was very sorry, that if I could fight it alone I would, but being a rdm taru only lvl 70, that there was a chance he and I would die and I didnt want to risk it for either of us.
I want to know, when did ppl get to the point that just because they are lvl 70+ that they are too good to help others? Do they not remember when they were lvl 50 something looking for coffers or needing help with the limit breakers? I was very disappointed with the ppl I was with, and it saddens me to think that so many ppl are so mean on our server.
We could have helped him, it was like a 5 min fight and we would have been done, but no, instead they went around killing stuff while we waited instead of helping a poor whm.
I just hope that all that was invold realize that one day you will be lvling lower jobs and you might need a raise or help, and some of the ppl that asked you for help will remember what was said to them and how rude you acted. I just hope that they are nicer to you than you were to them.
End of my little rant, rate me how you want. =(

I'm sorry you had to associate with such morons Wiccatu. I guess that what should have been a fun event and a great accomplishment was tarnishe by these idiots.

The risk of having to surround myself with people like this is one of the reasons I had no intention of joining any kind of HNM LS until someone I know RL asked me. I haven't joined yet but I might if they let me in :P.

It may only be my imagination but it seems as if a lot of people 70+ seem to start to think that they, by achieving this is better than lower level people. Really now, calling pepople noobs just because they almost failed(?) a BCNM is really low. And as for the "go back to valk" comment, heh to be honest I wish I could sometimes, maybe not Valkurm but at least the Maze. For me, the best days of this game was the first time I levelled in the Maze and then moved on to Valkurm.

I know that there are a lot of really nice highlevel people on Ragnarok and I hope that they will be the ones that set the example for the rest of us.

sorry for posting alot...but like the person said two posts above me...the best times for me have been leveling in the dunes...some of the long solo missions gets quite boring.

Now helping people is my #2 objective.
#1 objective's is level 75, getting my set to 75, getting relic scythe. But my #1's can't ever be acheived without #2's.

Leveling in my set and helping others is now my new favorite hobby.


^ hey but your giving back and helping out your party.


Edited, Tue Feb 15 12:39:28 2005 by UNCTGTG

Have you ever been running by in a lower level zone and all of a sudden people wave at you or something, and you have no idea who they are....this happened to me in qufim the other day when I was doing a rank 4 run. I get a tell and hey your that guy that helped my friend with AF-1. Also I posted a couple days ago that anyone needing help with G-1 paper runs please tell me..Last night alone I got 4 tells and I did 7 runs for paper on Saturday alone. I couldn't do it last night but I always give them a time or round a time when I can do it for them.

Also the RDM AF-hat fight I was talking about we had the 75pld and bout 9+ level 60's in our LS going with two being rdm. But the nice thing was another rdm ran by and asked what we were doing and we said Ranger AF and rdm af fights...we was like can I do my Rdm AF if I go with u to the Ranger AF....we were like sure...all in all nice thing was he brought his ranger friend that needed his AF too and a 71 war as well. yes we did own it. To this day I am friends with this rdm. We could be doing totally different things and I get a tell from him all the time.

Also doing G-2 this past weekend I made 4 new friends that we talk on a daily basis now.

Edited, Tue Feb 15 13:04:03 2005 by UNCTGTG

You know, so many times I've wandered over to IGE, card in hand, thinking "I'll just buy a 75 PLD...not tell anyone and then anytime someone on the LS needs something insanely hard, or someone somewhere needs an NM fight for their AF..or anything of the sort... I'd just load him up...and go do it."

Not for any other reason than to be able to say.. OK....this is when we are doing WHM AF...and I'm tanking and any WHM who is X level or higher and needs it...come on. or any other job for that matter.

Something seems to happen when people hit 70ish, they become elitists and annoying. They forget, that once upon a time they too were a level 1 nothing with no sub, gil or clue.

It is truly sad when people forget the difficulty that we all had to go thru in the lower levels. I'm not quite high level myself yet (just broke thru G1 last month after having the game for more than 1 year), but I always keep in mind the challenges that I encountered rising the ranks.

Everytime I run thru that tunnel in Valkurn Dunes, when some lv10-15s are standing around to wait for the sand bats to get cleared, I'd try to clear it for them even if I'm on a chocobo. I know how frustrating it is to be so helpless to some stupid bats.

I have escorted several new lv20s to Jeuno to do their chocobo quest and experience their first reactions to the great city. (Definitely priceless)

I try and help as many people seeking help for their subjob quest items or Kazham Keys.

Heck, I even gave some new people a few of my old gear just to help out.

And maybe thru Karma, I have been fortunate to find wonderful help in the challenges that I face myself in my current level (Genkais, AFs, parties). Made wonderful new friends. Was able to accomplish things I never thought I'd be able to do. It might be karma, it might be the four-leaf mandragora bud I've been carrying around with me. Doesn't really matter... I remember my past and by remembering, I am inspired to help others.

Hello there,
Ah man, the op had me seething that some people can act like that.

I was talking to one of my LS mates the other night about players getting elitest...even though im only lvl 52 i thought it would be easier to find nicer players at higher lvls...at least some people on this forum have shown that there are some truely nice people around still.

I remember when i was low lvl and hardly getting any help because mostly everyone else was new and had no idear what they were doing...makes me wonder how the split between the good and the bad came to be, at what point did some people change and not care about other people ?

I always look at it as this. If you dont help others your only hurting yourself in the long run. The whm you help now may save your *** 6 months down the line , the player you dont help(unless they are complete asshats) may wonder what the point is and leave....fewer players at higher lvls with nice gear etc will result in problems with partys later on.
Or if a player sees this behaviour from higher lvls they might just think thats the way to be later on...

It helps no one.

Myself i do what i can, from shouting in dunes if anyone needs sub job items to hanging around jungle saving peps from gob trains when im not busy.
Im only 52 so there is not much i can do to help others yet...but i like showing people that not everyone around can be a complete jerk, and if it makes only one of the people i have helped help someone else in the future..then i know that i did the right thing.

....sorry for the long post :)

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hey Jono nice to see ya on the board. Oh and from me Jono is an awesome higher level person. Most of his friends that I have met have also been very helpful.

Oh by the way if your still in need of your AF-Helmet let me know..>I have a high level beastmaster that will solo him then we'll just have to go kill him with like 1/3 life left. So it will be cake. a party of 60+ can take him down with the beast.

I've apologized for pt's I've been in quite a bit. People keep asking me why I rarely level and things like that are what make me stay away from seeking (besides having horrible luck).

As the game gets older and older, more and more jerk offs will get higher and higher in level and I can vouch with experience from fellow ls members and former ls members...sometimes those people that level insanely fast and have no will to help other people out are the people that got off easy and bought tons of gil or were power leveled through such things as rank6 battle and the such.

Out of the handful of pts I've had lately, atleast one person in the party was a total prick and it always had to be over some stupid detail or belitting someone which I find sad. Might be why some of the people I know in the last week have started selling their gear and quitting the game.

Amen acid...
And id like to add a rant of my own. Tonight i was helping someone in one of the linkshells im in. I was trying to find him a giddeus key. I went with a friend once to get mine, but other than that i had never been. I ran around for an hour and a half. I asked one of the guys that was running around killing everything for some help...got blown off I notice a 57 pld running around i ask her. Blown off again....she went stole a kill from me. >< Finally after while i asked Tramatized. Still was too busy but at least gave me a pos to go by. At the 2 hour mark i gave up. But i think would it have been so hard to just invite this poor whm that waited on me for 2 hours... to just go to sleep and come back tommorrow ?

If you still need help with the Giddeus thing, send Tif a tell tomorrow and I can get it for your friend. I farm back there a lot and I swear those keys drop more then anything I've ever seen for me back there.

As far as people who I dislike cause of the way they act in my party, I make a note and let whoever is building the party through a tell that I'm not comfy with that person and usually just leave it at that. Since it's one of my friends always building, it works out well. I can overlook most things. People have bad nights. I know I had a few snippy moments this week that I'm not entirely proud of. Fortunately, most of those were towards people who know I'm not normally like that and are understanding why I'm a little short.

I have been known to leave parties before if some of the people were overboard with their attitude towards other players.