I Need ALL Dynamis CoinsFollow

Like my job, Dragoon, there are some in the ranks of the job that ruin it for the rest by playing poorly, a bad attitude, poor gear, etc. Hence why people just have to play their best to earn their own reputation and try and work their way out of the sterotype.

EDIT: Seraphus wasn't bashing on any one DRK (besides the guy he was mentioning), just what he believes most DRK's tend to be.

Edited, Wed Feb 2 13:54:44 2005 by BatosaiTRK

I'll take a screenshot of masterasia next time I see him but he's leveling another job at the moment, I want to say summoner but I don't think that's right. If I spoke japanese, I'd ask him nicely if he could show me but the farthest I get is doing /praise before I check his latest gear to be made.

its highly unlikely masterasia has the weapon. i would bet caile or luffia or abyss would have it first since they are the real rich bastards.

if you can read japanese look at this link
http://ff11-photo.dynsite.net/joyfulyy/img/13228_1.jpg

the picture shows the guy got the celestation needed for the 3rd upgrade... but the cost for it is 6200 byrie bills.

DYnamis Lord drops those no?

That mega boss from Dynamis-Xarcabard that has a 2 hour that deals like 1500 damage through phalanx and stoneskin. Yeah someone showed me a SS and the log box-maximized shows about 45 K.O reports.

I think you will make it =) I will be doing the Dynamis-Bastok run tonight that you are nice enough to host for us^^ So atleast you will be getting alot sometime tonight or tomorrow (depends on if you are on when we get done).
And in the future, if I happen to get any coins/shells/bynes, I will be happy to send you a tell to let you know =) Am always happy to help out a fellow rdm^^

And as for the one who posted saying there are no Relic weapons completed on our server, you are wrong, Masterasia has one, and soon my LS leader will have one.

I examined Masteraisa the other day and he was wearing Koenig Knuckles, why would he not wear his Relic5 Weapon if he had it? I'd like to see a SS of Masterasia's equipment. I have Fraps so if I can I'll try to play paparrapzi.

All crafts are profitable at the high levels. It's just a matter of how profitable. Also some crafts focus more on quick selling low profit items while others focus on extremely profitable synths that don't sell very often.

not only is it extremely difficult to collect the coins (6100-6300 confirmed), its also extremely hard to kill the shadow NMs to get the celestations needed for the 3rd upgrade. you need to clear beaudicine then defeat the 4 dragons then go to the shadow NM area. POS and MM combined to try this and each time they came out dead in a pile.

the 4th upgrade needs the fragments that are dropped by the animated weapon NMs in xarc which are also hard to kill because they teleport around after a short period of time.

my friend in the ls that killed shadow lord first said you will lose around 20,000 exp each for 64 people to try kill him. so dont be expecting the 10,000 pieces to be so easy to get. they have almost killed the spear animated weapon but failed because it teleported. currently they are collecting AFs for everyone and no one in the LS has the full relic weapon either.

if masterasia really has the knuckle, please post the picture.

also see this link
http://www.geocities.jp/ragdynamis/

Edited, Fri Feb 18 01:13:50 2005 by shirobekko

Edited, Fri Feb 18 01:15:17 2005 by shirobekko

I'm sure she is aware of all the requirments as am I its nearly impossible keyword nearly. But it seems to me that this thread has now taken a different route of lets all make it seem like she cant do it so she quits or something. Why so much negative feed back? It might be the truth but i'm sure she already knows that and doesn't need more people reminding her of how difficult it is, i say instead of saying oh it to hard you need this many coins and blah blah blah we should make more uplifting post not only would it benefit her but it would benefit our community as a whole to see her with the fully upgraded relic.

Even japanese players on Ragnarok wont get to the 4th upgrade. Let's do some simple math.


The 4th upgrade requires 6500 byne bills.


100 coins= 1 byne bill

Dynamis Runs drop 200-300 coins.
650,000 coins. That's 3250 Dynamis runs.
Dynamis runs are done every 2 weeks.

And that's JUST the commission fee.


I'm only familiar with the Relic Kunai, so I'll use it as an example.

For the 4th stage weapon (the third upgrade), you will require an attestation scroll for that specific weapon, as well as Dynamis Currency ranging from 6000~6500 larger currency. In addition to the fee, you'll need an Attestation of Legerity, which drops off a Hydra NM in Dynamis-Beaucidine named Mildaunegeux with drops a 1/3 chance. There are a total of five Hydra NMs in Dynamis-Beaucidine, and each of them have three jobs, and has a chance to drop one of three different attestations corrisponding to their job. For example, Mildaunegeux is a MNK/THF/NIN, and drops the Hand to Hand, Gun, and Katana attestations.

In order to spawn these NMs, an Ahriman located inside a Tower near where Nue spawns in the original Beaucidine must be defeated. The Ahriman's death triggers the spawn of all 5 Hydra NMs. Hydras are no joke: when engaged, it will instatly spawn six other Hydra monsters which apparently share hate with the NM, and the NM itself can use the three 2-hours abilities corrisponding to their jobs... as many times as they want.
Now for the last upgrade: you will need three things. The first thing you need is something called a shard of Necropsyche. These are fairly common drops in Dynamis-Xarcabard off the Vanguard Dragons. The two hardest things to obtain are the Weapon Fragment and the commission fee for the final upgrade.

In the case of Katana, what you will need is a Demoniac Fragment and 10000+ Silverpieces (the last upgrade uses the same type of currency as the first upgrade). Note that I say 10000+. It's not known that you only need one 10000 piece currency for the final upgrade - all that is confirmed so far is that for the Relic Scythe the final Upgrade requires one 10000 piece. This is unconfirmed, but there is a rumor floating around that it can ask up to three pieces of 10000 piece currencies.

As for the Demoniac Fragment, these drop from a NM in Dynamis-Xarcabard called the Animated Kunai. These NMs spawn after Ying and Yang are defeated (at least once), and once you engage them multiple decoy NMs known as the Sattelite Kunai spawn as distractions. Once engaged the Animated weapons will lose interest in you and leave withing 15 seconds. People say that somepone must use the stage 3 relic ws to keep it's attention, however this was a rumor and was disproven. One says that using a 2 hour will intrigue the weapon's interest. These Animated weapons are by far extremely difficult to kill as they can use the relic ws themselves. I have heard stories of Koenig armored Paldinds being hit with Knights of the Round for 6000+ damage. This isn't too unbelieveable if you consider the fact that many mobs in Dynamis can cast Doom and Death spells.

I'm sorry I accidentally confused Byne Bills with Bronze Pieces.


The Relic Kunai costs 6500 100 byne bills.

One Hundred 1Byne bills= One 100 byne bill

So you'd need to do about 4500 dynamis runs.


LOL no way is it 45 runs. The goblin says that he doesn't think it's possible to be done so even SE knows that this task is extremely hard. These are the ULTIMATE weaponns....there's no way they'd make it so easy to get just by a measly 45 runs. These babies are estimated 600 Million gill to make through all upgrades not including time spent on getting the items and killing the NMs.




Thats for 3rd upgrade, however I'm talking about the final upgrade. The final upgrade would take literally years unless you are extremely rich and buy every single piece of dynamis currency available.

Even if Dynamises are available every 3 days they still are no cake walk. DynamisCatattack goes on dynamis runs every other week.

No offense, but where on earth did you get information like this?

I know S/E designed the trade with the goblins to allow multiple trades over time, but you can't even HOLD 6500 100 Byne bills in your inventory (unless you count your MH). I'm not saying that S/E isn't about timesinks, but I'm pretty sure you're mistaken about needing six-thousand five-hundred 100-byne bills.



You can only do Dynamis once every 72 hours (4 days RL time). That would mean (by "simple" math):

4 days X 4500 runs = 18,000 days = 49 years. Yeah....I think you're mistaken about this. While I'll be the first one to agree that S/E is evil and likes to make insane time-sinks, they're not that retarded.



Do you even realize how much of a timesink even 45 runs are? It's certainly not "measly". You do realize that 100byne bills are pretty rare per trip, with at most being 4, sometimes as low as 1 or even zero. Even requiring 45 runs per person is still an INSANE timesink.

To be honest, I know noone has seen what these weapons do upfront nor how much damage the WS themself do, but from their base stats, they're not that impressive. Sure they're nice (and in many cases, the highest DPS weapon available), but they're not remarkable or anything like you're making them out to be. So unless there is a hidden effect like "when equipped, Damage+40000000000000", I don't see them really as "ultimate" weapons. Hell, even Company Sword has a higher base DPS than fully upgraded Relic Sword (Excalibur), without comparing any hidden effects / WS damage / Additional effect stuff.



No, DCA attempts to do Dynamis twice a week. On Tuesdays and on Saturdays.

I'm not flaming you, but where are you getting this kind of information from? It would seem preposterous for S/E to make a decision like this.

First upgrade costs 3-5 100-unit currency (+materials).

Second upgrade costs 14-16 100-unit currency (+weapons).

Third upgrade is generally accepted to cost 62-65 100-unit currency (+attestation). This upgrade allows you to use the Relic weaponskill in Dynamis.

Fourth upgrade is rumored (only 1 or 2 confirmed reports) to cost 1 10,000-unit currency (or 100 100-unit currency) + fragment + shard. This upgrade allows you to use the Relic weaponskill anywhere.

Total cost in the absolute worst case is 184 100-unit currencies, or 18,400 single-unit currencies. At the average going rate of 9k/single (on Ragnarok) that is still over 160 MILLION gil if you buy all currency.

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The goblins in the beastman strongholds confirm that they will upgrade the currencies with 100 of the lower denomination to 1 of the higher one:

100 1-byne-bills = 1 100-byne bill, 100 100-byne-bills = 1 10,000-byne bill.

100 whiteshells = 1 jadeshell, 100 jadeshells = 1 stripeshell

100 bronzpieces = 1 silverpiece, 100 silverpieces = 1 goldpiece.

This is not guesswork, the goblins will CONFIRM this if you talk to them.

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Assuming you get a total of 300 currency per dynamis trip (be it all singles or with a 100-unit mixed in, and this is a conservative estimate), that's still 62 trips worth. Considering you can only do them once every 3 days that's still over half a year of dynamis runs. And also think that this is just for ONE person getting all of the currency.

If a Linkshell worked together to get one person a fully-upgraded weapon I could see them getting enough currency in 4-5 months assuming the specific person also buys currenct occasionally. However I do not see this happening in the Ragnarok NA community anytime soon as people are (naturally) greedy and want to upgrade their own weapon as well.

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On another note entirely I do not understand why people would charge more for a 100-unit currency than it takes to by 100 1-unit currencies; as far as I know the goblins do not charge a fee for upgrading the currency. Nor can I understand the people who are prepared to sell singles in bulk at a HIGHER price than you would buying singles. Why would anyone buy 99 1-byne-bills for more than it would take to cobble that many together by purchasing singles?