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caught a screenshot of you earlier, morningstar.

Well, I have heard about Catherine's standars too and her attitude. Not to mention that I am also pearlsack in the LS Catherine sometimes is in. I just tend to not having any association with the person, even if I know if they have done anything wrong or not. I can tell how you feel because once I had partied with Catherine as well, and when something came up all we heard was 'gotta go bye", not even a second to respond and a warp / disband.

It's not wrong to hold onto common morals at all. I think having morals is what lets you keep with this game and continue to push up. If it were not for morals then some people wouldn't have been banned from it as well. You don't have to oblige to people you don't want to, it's your own life, man. No one's ideas > yours, they can only convince you.

take it easy.

PS, it was good you didn't go to the Hakutaku party because my ls friend Lemo went, and he said about 70% of the people who went died on the first run.

you know, i think we all need to talk? (-.-)b

/wave to Rahvin! (^.^)b

The game can be frustrating enough just working to complete a Quest or a Mission. I honestly salute you for standing up and leaving a Party because someone was being an Asshat. I haven't been playing much, but when my GF and I go to XP, I will not spend more then 10 minutes in a Party where:

- Someone is fighting over Minute points
- Someone is telling the others how to play thier job (Not Advice, Demands)
- Or if I played with the Person previously, and see, that they still are a Crappy Player, who does not respond or Expand upon feedback.

Final is a Game, and when I play a game, I'm not looking for Drama or ********* I'm a simple person, and I Like a good simple, effective, tolerable party.

I'd sit for hours LFP, versus 15 minutes in an Asshat filled Deathwish Party :p

“To thy own self be true.”

My Shakespeare is a bit rusty, but one of the best lines in Hamlet. (Polonius <sp> speaking to his son before he leaves)

To answer your question, I will commit a faux pas and ask a few questions of my own. PLEASE NOTE, this is not a rant only an observation.

Why is it people in this game have very little sense of community? Did SE really jack up when at level 10 forced you to join parties (Bst excluded) to level, Kazham keys at 25, the hell of rank 5, need I even say G1?

Or is it at a certain level when you must separate from the herd and become “uber, leet, or whatever.”

How is it, one can shout in Jueno for skill up/ key parties, you offer to join only to be told you can’t because you need a key also and people helping don’t want to get another.

What makes a good player? What makes a bad player? What makes a good linkshell and a bad one?

Are the images we see on screen projections of our psyche or what we want to ourselves to believe we are?

Answers:

Is it wrong to have any form of moral integrity in this game?“To thy own self be true.”

Is this all about personal gain and ******** over anybody and everybody you can to excel? “To thy own self be true.”

I am one of the few with integrity...? “To thy own self be true.”

In summary, we all strive to accomplish our goals in this game. Our individual goals what ever they may be. We have made and lost friends along the way. We have grown together and some have died together. But in the end you are who you are.

I am one of the few with integrity...? No Morning, No, you are not. Your one of the many. And never compromise.

“To thy own self be true.”


Edited, Tue Dec 21 14:07:21 2004 by OmegaManOne

And bobdeez is it too ^_^. The craziest SMN I've ever played with.

first of all...
/wave queeniexb lol :P how u been?

anyway, about the whole issue, yeh i /nod with u on that. morals regardless if its a game or not, if it shud be taken seriously or not, should be there. thats where all the respect comes from. i dont think we would all want to play with people who dont give a hoot about the next person now would we?

as for the part where u left the pt, i agree with some here who pointed out bailing on the pt because of 1 individual.. i know u disliked that player but shud that be a good enough reason to victimize the other people organizing the thing? maybe in my case its not, id still go and try my best to ignore. thats just me.. im not saying ur wrong.. im just pondering on the decision u made. hey we all have our ways right? but maybe u could have made a better choice? dont know *shrug*

i just hope we can all avoid instances where we dislike other people.. its kinda sad we get all pissed inside virtual reality.. seems to be depressing as well. i know people are still affected by emotions whether virtual or not.. but i mean its just a game? right?



if it was about personal game.. id quit. i hate players who think only of themselves.. i dont think ur standards are too high, i think they are just right. keep the moral integrity, we need more people with it who actually care. ;)

I agree with CrimsonHunter on just about everything in this post. I even have an interesting story about Cathrine myself but I won't go into that. I know who he was talking about when it comes to the 6.5 million gil thief and I'm glad his LS booted him after. Now, when I say I agree I am saying that I will never play with a person that has done me or anyone else wrong... never. These people include the "asshats" and what I like to call the Three Little Piggies.

The first little piggy is a gilseller. These guys usually travel in parties and camp the good NM's. Some of them farm cuttings or whatever gives good gil. Do not be fooled though, there are people that are gilsellers that you would not even expect. The person mentioned above who stole the gil knows the guy at IGE by first name and has boasted about getting discounts. The problem with these guys is that they usually have an advantage due to the fact that they group up while the rest of us camp NM's solo. With the new wider range on certain NM's this poses as a problem. Not only that but they sell our gil and create economical hardships that wouldn't normally exist without them. ex: extraordinarily difficult for a MNK to camp his Ochiodo's Kote with 4-5 gilsellers camping it regularly and selling the item for much more than it used to cost. The upside is that anyone that can beat them to the NM and get drop can sell it for quite a bit as well. This leads me to the second little piggy...

The second little piggy is the gilbuyer. The gilbuyer is the lazy @$$ who doesn't want to farm for their money. These people fuel the gilsellers and only add to the problems. You have seen these people and probably play with then without even knowing it. Whatever you do though you should not go around accusing people of being gilbuyers without some proof. Not everyone that magically comes up on items is a gilbuyer and it's not fair to persecute people that have good gear. Personally I think the gilbuyers are the worst of the three piggies because they give the gilsellers purpose.

The third little piggy is the dishonest piggy. This little piggie sits in Jeuno with a mule selling shehei at 5k a pice or arrows at 2k a piece. The dishonest piggy will steal 6.5 million gil from someone and say it's right because the person supposedly bought the gil, even though at one time the piggy sold gil themselves. Maybe this person even sells stuff to their own mules to change the prices of items (which in some cases is acceptable but not all). This person may also qualify for the first two piggies as well... you never know. However, the dishonest piggy is easiest to spot and for some reason is also the most tolerated of the three.

What I think we should do as honest players is become the Big Bad Wolf. We need to chew these guys up and spit them out. No more tolerance. No more sympathy. These people are here to ruin our game and get ahead for themselves in any way possible. If you know these piggies report them to your local linkshell. Don't support their gaming. If you do I may have to think up a fourth piggy just for you. That is if the "asshats" have not taken that position already. So please... have some standards and integrity, and enforce them. It won't hurt to leave a party... just don't let them leave town before you do. And make sure you explain clearly why you left. If the party doesn't reject the piggies and bring you back then you are better off anyways.

This is probably the only part of your detailed and insightful comment with which I disagree. (Bias: I'm planning to walk a mule to Jeuno soon -- prism powders ahoy! -- the better to sell some hard-to-move-elsewhere items.) No one is forced to buy anything, anywhere, from a bazaar or from the AH. If the price is too high, don't buy it -- and there are essentially no naive "n00bs" in Jeuno in any event.

Personal example: it's maddening to me (as I trust it would be to you) that Darksteel Bolt Heads have inflated in San d'Oria from 18,000 several weeks ago to 27,000 or more this morning. At 22-23k, I hit the break-even point ... but I bought them up to 26k anyway because few other (cheaper) items are "skill up" eligible for me in Carpentry right now. I'm FURIOUS that the single seller of these bolt heads is price-gouging ... but it's his right in a free market. Personally, if I were he, I would instead keep the price a little lower, to avoid infuriating people into deciding, "THAT's it ... I'm going to raise my crafting skill and make these heads mySELF from now on, to avoid this sort of gouging!!"

Ah, I see now. I don't deal in those items so I didn't understand. You're saying that these "piggies" are hoping that buyers, used to buying stacks at the AH instead of single items as in bazaars, will be fooled into paying far too much. Yes, that is rather nasty.

But again, although that's something I would never do -- hell, it's counterproductive, at least if you hope to bazaar with a given character repeatedly and build a good reputation for bargains, as I do -- still this is pretty darn far afield from gil buying and gil selling. Caveat emptor. (So sweet of you to throw those you're-a-piggy-too insults-if-I-dare-disagree-with-you, though.)

hmm... just remember that this is only a game. something that is made up. NOT real life. doesnt anyone remember that little warning that pops up before you enter the world of vanadiel? you know, the one at the beginning of the FFXI viewer. the one that says, Please dont let this ruin your life, work, school, friends, family, etc etc. well, it was something like that, but you guys get the point. Its only a game! (-.-)b

oh please bombadil dont defend cathrine simply because shes in your same ls or was at one point, the fact is shes one of the most stuck up rdms in our server shes childish and ******* way to much, many times i replaced her in parties because she left them without any warning just a simple bye something came up and a warp like somebody mentioned. She might be good at her job but the fact remains that shes a ***** and you know it, then again you yourself are stuck up and think your a gift to ragnarok like if you were that great of a paladin. Personally she needs to grow up and stop being such a drama queen. I'm sure if she wasn't a rdm they would have simply kicked her and Crimson could have stayed, but since people favor us simply because we can refresh they didn't. This is why many sucky and trashy rdms make it to level 75 simply because they can refresh and pt's let them leech xp, and i'm surprised she shut her big mouth because she always has something to say and ***** about. Its a shame she didn't leave in the server migration it would have saved many of us from headaches. As for crimson i dont blame you for leaving at all i to avoid being near people that i dislike or dislike me simply because i wish to avoid drama and people know i dont hold my tongue. So if you find yourself in this situation again just ask them to remove the person if all she/he is doing is helping if they truly value your help and time then they will if not then to hell with them let them get somebody else.