Too many Spanish people on Ragnarok?Follow

This thread should just die IMO.... We all get along pretty good so its stupid to have racist threads like this.

The problem is with the thread starter, not the spanish speakers.

lol... hilarious topic that really doesn't have a point or make any sense. i'm not even from this server but the topic name caught my eye, and what do you know... i ended up reading almost the entire thing.

only thing i have to say is that some of you who think you SPEAK english need to relearn it. that's right... SPEAK english not TALK english like almost all of you "NA's" type in your posts under this thread.

omg, this thread hasnt died yet ????? Guess I will have to find a better thread and bump it up ^^
May this thread burn ><

Well.

Just the other day I met a "Spanish pt only." response to a invitation to party.

o.O;;

On another note, when I party with other Singaporeans and we chat alternatively between slang/dialects/English, we never have a problem with other players. Perhaps the OP was directed to those Spaniards who were rude or inconsiderate in general towards him. Generalisation is bad, however, since all races/nationalities are afflicted by the same immature players.

This, however, must be the most racist MMO I've ever played. >.< Chill out guys...

p.s. Singapore is not in China.

...yet even as everyone says it's mean to be racist, it's from the same pool of people who always say, "JP ARE ALL RACIST ASSES, OMG THEY WANT JP ONLY THEY IGNORE MY /TELL WHEN I ASK THEM TO PT RACIST BASTARDS" - and things to that effect, though maybe not in caps lock.

I don't mean to be, sound, or come off as racist, but I do partially agree. I see people /s in JP sometimes, some talking /s english - but above all, I see more people, just as a mass, /s for just stupid long periods of time in spanish. I don't care if I'm walking and I see 2, 3, 5 people talking, whatever - but when I'm at the guild crafting, or doing AH work, and 20 minutes later I still keep seeing...

Whomever : <spanish> xD
Whomever2 : <spanish> jajajaja XD XD XD
Whomever : XD
Whomever3 : <spanish>

(the references to XD and "jaja~" are not meant to be racist, but as someone who does not speak any spanish it's the only common I can really see in it)

...it's kind of annoying. Further, I don't know if I just notice it more but most spanish-speaking players I see are more... "excessive". It's one thing to /t me and ask for a teleport. When I say no, that doesn't mean continue to /tell me - in spanish, which mind you, I still don't understand a bit of - for 5 minutes, apparently asking why I am not teleporting.

I'll be honest, I am a bit racist, but I don't mean to offend. It's hard not to be what I've lived around for so many years. Still though, if there is any problem with racism I see noone doing anything to help with it.

Valkurm and Qufim are now like, spanish colonies - yeah people will be people but the AH/guild mess where I see conversations go on for extended periods of time which can get irritating, it's like zone-wide now. Not to mention nearly every party I find in one of said 2 areas is at least partially, if not completely spanish.

I wouldn't care; in JP pt's I just let them talk japanese, I don't butt in or talk much regardless. But when I decline an invite, and the same person /t's me in spanish - then invites me again, repeating the process more than a dozen times over an hour... wow, really, no thanks.

Whatever, I can sense a vibe coming out of my post now... but it's just, things that are generally *annoying*, I just see spanish players do them *more* - NA and JP do it too, much I see it come bundled more often with "XD XD" than "lol" or "ww"~

Just a note on the racist thing: It's not racist, it's discriminating at most.
As in: not all people coming from the same country are the same race..


*meow ^^



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Edited, Mon Jan 10 08:48:46 2005 by Poekie

I really dont understand why people are making a fuss over this whole "omg stop talking spanish I cant understand you" trash -_-;
I sometimes wonder what the jp people thought of the NAs when they first started... It's funny how ppl forget that they too where once "n00bs" and acted the same way at one point. If every NA and JP can go around talking in say or shout spurting out conversations across town and lv areas I think that the spanish folk have the same right. Amazing how everyone forgets all the pointless shouting conversations done by many other ethnic groups when they want to complain about something.

I'm a spanish mithra. I like this game, it's very fun, but this comments....i don't believe that some people think this things.What's your problem??? don't understand my language?? i'm sorry, but i don't understant your language.
When i do pt, and there are english or japanese people, i try speak in english, but there are words that i don't understand so if there is a spanish person in the party, i talk with him in spanish. Because i want that he translates me.
When yo go and see spanish conversations, it's because ragnarok is the spanish's server.... well, all the spanish are there, because we want to can speak in our language in a english and japanese game. In Europe can't buy the game in spanish, because Square Enix doesn't translate it, and a lot of gamers talk spanish! All S. America, Spain and Miami XD. (XD = lol).
Only a thing more.... The world isn't North Amenica or Japan.

And i'm sorry, but my english isn't good.

Good luck in the game.... for all XDDDD

Ok....Sorry, but i had to say it

I might as well comment and make people mad at me.

I believe in complete equality, not this equality crap that we think is going on.

I think things like Black Entertainment Televison should be not allowed, or latin music awards and all stuff like that. Or womens only clubs.

I am white male fyi. So why should these not be aloud. Well if we made an all white entertainment television what would happen. We would be a bunch of red necks, racist jerks. And be laughed at because the name of the station would be W.E.T. Same goes for womens only clubs, in canada along time ago we had mens only clubs, women went to court, they are now not allowed but its ok to have womens only clubs, hmm anything wrong with that.

Sure the past was not fair, or even close to fair but at some point we have to move forward and try to have the same rules across the boards.



So how does this tie into the subject. We as NA, or white or whatever, have to comform to everyone elses needs or we are racist. Japanese parties, like UNC said we try to follow their customs, but why, why cant they follow ares or why cant spanish people follow ours, or wow, how bought this, we find a middle ground.

So before shouting racist, think, is there any attempt by others to find the middle ground or do we always have to conform to to the minority.

Again this post may sound racist but as i said, I believe that everyone should have the same rules, no one should be allowed special treatment whether in rl or in the game. this is a dream of mine whether possible or not.

I found the middle ground is just being polite and respectful. I do this no matter what type of party I am in. I try to be polite when I ask someone to party with me, and to be quite honest, I get rather upset when some J players don't answer me simply because I used the auto translate function. That's fine if you don't want to party with me because of the language barrier. It's fine if you don't want to party with me because I'm NA. Just have the same respect I've shown you and give me an answer. A simple no thanks is all I ask.

I have found that for the most part though, when I have mixed parties, the J players are trying to adapt to us as we are to them. I got a giggle the last party I had that was 3 NA and 3 J players. We all got to where we were meeting and the NA's bowed to the J's while we got waves in return. Just was a perfect example of each side trying to adapt, and I loved it.

I don't care which language you speak or where you come from, if you are polite and respectful to others in your party, I will welcome to chance to play with you at any time.