Jophiel wrote:
Well, I found six someones with zero effort and restricting my search to only Sept 17th. But I suppose we can play No True Scotsman with your definition of "buzzing" if that's what you need to save face.
I'm reasonably certain you could find six someone's talking about the lunar landing hoax too. That doesn't mean that this resonates broadly with any larger group of people though. My point is that "conservatives" (meaning, you know, the bulk of people who identify themselves as such) are mostly unaware that this is a thing, and upon hearing about it, kinda shrug about it, since it's basically par for the course with Obama. In the broad spectrum of things we are really concerned about, this is barely a blip.
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OMG! Rush Limbaugh spent 30 seconds talking about this on one show
Be honest, now. Do you have some sort of real learning disability? You think because I linked one segment that means no other segments exist?
Again. Irrelevant. I'm conservative. Most of my family is conservative. Most of the people I work with are conservative (or relatively moderate leaning if they aren't). One of my co-workers is what I would even label as "rabidly conservative". As in, reads various conservative sites all the time, and will wave his arms around talking about this conspiracy thing, or that theory, or whatever the latest thing is (most of which I, and most other conservatives, kinda roll our eyes over). I have conversations about a wide variety of topics with my conservative friends, family, and co-workers. Want to know exactly how many times this subject has come up in the last week? Zero. Not even fringe conservative guy has brought it up.
It's just not a big deal to conservatives. At best, it's a "yup, same old same old" response, and then you move on. My point, which you don't seem to grasp, is that on a lot of these "look at how crazy conservatives are" topics, us actual conservatives are basically only hearing about it when our liberal friends make a point to tell us how crazy we're being. And then we kinda look at them like "Um... where'd you hear this?". You liberals spend far far more time on these topics than we do. We might make note of something. Even comment on it. Then we move on. But you guys are like dogs with a freaking bone.
Just like you're doing here. It's apparently far more important for you to prove to me that conservatives really really think this is a huge big deal than it is for you to listen to the actual conservative in front of you saying "no, it's really not". I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. That I should agree with you that conservatives are all bent out of shape over this, when I have literally not heard a single conservative I know personally even mention it? Pundits and talk radio folks have to look for something to talk about. They ramble on about all sorts of things, most of which their audience only marginally cares about. This is one of those things.
I guess I just don't get why it's such a personal mission for you to prove something to me. What is it? You accuse me of "no true scotsman", but it seems like you're doing the same thing. Is your argument that I must not be a true conservative because I'm not seeing this as a huge thing to get bent out of shape over? Cause that's kinda silly. I can only speak for my personal experience, and in that experience, this is not a big deal. Might it be for some "other people, somewhere else"? Sure. But I don't know them, and neither do you. But somehow, you're insisting that my response to a few mentions about this from a few pundits and editorial writers is atypical of conservative response, and to prove this, you've got what? A hypothetical conservative audience out there, lapping this up, and getting outraged about it? You don't know any of them personally, and they don't post here, but you're just sure they must exist. And they must be the "true conservatives" because why? They fit your narrative?
Lol. How about you stick to speaking about your own opinions, and not try to imagine what others must be so you can argue against them. Cause that might be more productive.
Oddly enough, just a couple hours ago, I got an excited phone call from a friend of mine. His daughter (my goddaughter) is attending UMD, and she's going to see the Pope in DC. He was quite excited about this, and how great of an experience it would be for her, etc, etc, etc. Amazingly, not once did he mention that horrible president Obama inviting a bunch of LGBT folks to ruin the Pope's visit. Again. Not really an issue. Annoying? Sure. Something to spend more than a second just adding it to the pile of crappy things liberals do? Not remotely.
Edited, Sep 23rd 2015 6:51pm by gbaji