Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
A lot of Gore people did though. You do remember that, right? People still insist today that Al Gore really won the election in 2000.
For various definitions of "a lot".
Kuwoobie didn't clarify, so...?
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Anyway, if you're honestly trying to compare the circumstances of the 2000 election to what's happening now, I'm just going to laugh and move on. Come back when Clinton wins 335 EVs and Trump people are saying it was rigged and tell me all about how it's just like 2000
Nope. I'm commenting on the human nature of clinging to your "side" regardless of outcome. The fans who think their team can still come back from a 15 point deficit with 1 minute left to play kind of people (which, frankly, if you're playing against my freaking home team isn't actually that crazy). All I was saying was that this isn't magically restricted to just one "side". The specifics of the circumstances aren't remotely the point I'm making.
The fact that people do actually vote for third party candidates (every election cycle in some cases) somewhat supports my point. They know their guy has zero chance of winning, yet they vote anyway. Trump has a vastly higher chance of winning this election than they do, so it's not like it's that crazy for them to argue every possible reason why he should or could win, and yeah, some of that's going to involve a belief that if he doesn't, it's because of some nefarious action. Kinda exactly like the Gore folks who railed about voter fraud, voter suppression, unfair recounts, etc, etc. The scope is different, but the concept and frankly emotional motivation on the part of the people is the same. It's not about reality, it's about what they want to have had happen.