Kelvyquayo wrote:
ElneClare wrote:
Should be interesting to see how he tries to defend Trump and the GOP Congress not being "Traitors" to their oath of Office after today's meeting and news conferance between Trump and Putin.
What is going on? I don't want to read about it.. I try to avoid the news.. headlines are enough to raise my bile regardless of context anymore..
It's a case of: Failure to go to the extreme in one direction, is taken as an extreme in the other. If you don't fall over yourself proclaiming "Russian meddling" as the absolute utmost most important thing in the freaking Universe, then you are part of a vast Russian conspiracy or something. At the risk of repeating myself (again!), there was no more meddling by the Russians during the 2016 election than there was in 2012, or 2008, or 2004, etc... It's not like the Russian government paying people in the US to push messaging/propaganda is new. They've been doing it for decades. And yeah, Russian hackers exist. As so Chinese, and several other governments. Not new at all either. But if you really want to be selective, you can cherry pick just the bits you want and ignore the rest and create a narrative.
Which is what's going on.
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Just perusing the news searches I don't really see any specifics other than "CAPITULATION TO THE DICTATOR"... What did he do? Or what was he expected to do that he didn't do or vice-versa? And more importantly why did anyone believe any of it anyway?
Again. Driven by the aforementioned narrative relating the common actions of Russia vis-a-vis our elections and propaganda efforts with "Meddling" and "Collusion". One leads to the other, which leads to folks even asking questions which would not otherwise be asked, making a meeting which would otherwise be completely normal and routine seem abnormal. Or even nefarious somehow.
You do realize that it's pretty normal when world leaders meet to not immediately run to the nearest camera and badmouth the other, right? They usually say things like "we had a productive meeting" and "we're building up trust and yadda yadda". It's what politics is about. Nothing new to see here. But Trump failing to do so is now interpreted as some kind of horrible thing. And that's before getting into the "demand that he condemn Putin for meddling whilst in the middle of a summit" situation.
The hysteria about this is what's remarkable to me.