Smasharoo wrote:
That is why I feel what I said is justified.
Nope. Does nothing to justify the specificity. Which is the problem. If you want to have faith that there is something after death that continues your experience as a being, that's fine. Unlikely, but that's what faith is about. I believe humans will someday come to a point in civilization where they won't happily trade the deaths of thousands for moving up in wealth from 4,000,000,000 to 3,999,999,999. Equally unlikely, but it's fun to hope.
Wholly distinct from "Jesus is gonna fix it, everybody!"
You either missed or ignored my statement regarding an
'archetypal faith' or an actual universal faith. Yes, Jesus-ness is one specific type of thing to have faith in.. but what are we actually hoping for?
My postulation is that there is a 'universal hope' that every human has.. and if they don't have it they simply haven't thought that much about it..
We can certainly disagree about the specificity of if/how that universal hope can be achieved.. religious.. scientific.. or accepting that it can never be achieved..
The universal hope is quite simply love and peace.
If you show me a human being that doesn't truly in their deepest heart of hearts doesn't actually wish for love and peace then that would be a very damaged individual that probably needs the closest approximation to love and peace possible.
I understand that many people wouldn't ever dream to hope for such a fantasy land.. which is where the faith comes in in all of it's many colors..
But I was speaking more for the things that we hope for rather than what we specifically choose to pin those hopes on.
Then we get to how to have hope without faith and how to have faith without hope.. but that's another chapter..