angrymnk wrote:
Not completely unlike.. the bible?
Well I'm pretty sure William Golding was a Christian.
Lord of the Flies in Hebrew is Baalzebub..
so .. I guess?
lolgaxe wrote:
You can't praise a religious belief for all good things because at some point it probably existed somewhere in your lineage without attributing the same way about all the nasty sh*t in the world, too. "I work at a soup kitchen every weekend," and "I make jackets out of the skin of newborn babies" are the same in your claim: Because Christians.
People obviously worked in soup kitchens and of course made jackets out of whatever.... indeed.
Every person has the means and the ability to know Good from Evil without religious beliefs..
What I am positing is that the our desire to do Good is not strong enough for us to actually do Good. Even though we know what is good we still kill, steal, lie, etc..
I believe that without the influence of God's Word (Jesus) through the work of Christians SPECIFICALLY we would have have the type of society that we value today.
Ancient people certainly had charities and cared for the sick.. but ultimately every civilization has dissolved despite of that. Is it even debatable that we live in one of the most free and humane society on earth?? I challenge that if you trace that back that it is because of Christ.
Yes, people have done horrible things in the name of Christ.. They were wrong. They were not following Christ's teachings.
But look around the world. How many societies were suddenly miraculously endued with a culture of compassion and nature where not long ago they lived like animals. I'm not being racist. It is the nature of all humans.
Yes, people slaughtered natives.. the crusades... those things were atrocities.. but those things could have been done by any people of any religion.. That type of thing would happen anywhere at any time. I daresay that those things were not because of Christianity rather because of nature of the human to do evil and not good.
thatproteinguy wrote:
Well it got a chuckle out of me, for what it's worth.
Amusing. I don't consider this "witnessing". I more consider it an online intellectual mosh pit. Jump in and try not to get a bloody nose.
Edited, Jun 5th 2014 11:40pm by Kelvyquayo