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Interesting that both of those cops are left handed and both are holding the dog leashes with their left hands. Not saying that's wrong, just another example of left handed folks being at a disadvantage living in a right handed world. Oh wait! Was there something else I was supposed to be looking at?

I thought stupidmonkey was trying to take over the world? Although Coca Cola i the closest thing to world domination that we have.

The gays aren't everywhere yet, the southern states are still bravely fighting back the tidal wave of fabulous gays. But Coca Cola is everywhere, from the most crowded to the most deserted places on earth, if there are people there's Coca Cola.

Um... Ok. Let's try this... again.



No. It's not irrelevant. It's the entire point I was making. My speculation is that Martin wasn't afraid of Zimmerman because he thought he was a criminal, but because he thought Zimmerman was reporting him to the police (or was the police).



Assuming you meant "commit", I never once said this. How many times do I have to repeat this statement?



But was he afraid of Zimmerman because he thought he was a criminal, or because he represented the law in some way? That's significant, isn't it?




I didn't misspeak. Happy? I don't know why Martin was doing what he was doing. But whatever he was doing looked suspicious enough to Zimmerman for him to call the police, and apparently Martin thought they were suspicious enough to run from Zimmerman once he realized he (Zimmerman) had been watching him while he was doing it. Whether he was actually going to commit a crime doesn't matter. That it appears that both men thought what Martin was doing would look suspicious is. Else, why did he run?



What other claims? That was the sole point I was making. WTF?



I'm not arguing that he was looking for something to vandalize/steal. I said that his actions looked suspicious like someone who "perhaps" was doing that (but it could have been anything). You're missing the forest for the trees. My argument isn't about exactly what Martin was doing, but that whatever he was doing looked suspicious to Zimmerman and that Martin ran because he realized that what he was doing looked suspicious and *not* because he thought Zimmerman was some kind of stalker.



No. My facts only need to show that his reason for running was more likely to have been from a fear of getting in trouble with the law than fear of a killer/stalker. You know, like I've said repeatedly. You're ignoring my actual argument and focusing on an example I gave in a list of things he *could* have been doing. That's nuts.


I have provided a list of facts that support my speculation that Martin ran because he thought Zimmerman was calling the cops on him and not because he thought Zimmerman was some kind of stalker/killer/whatever. That's the point I'm arguing. You're free to argue on your own about whether anyone can prove that Martin was about to steal or vandalize something, but that's not what I was saying at all. Again, that's what the word "perhaps" means.



The larger point is that there's been this huge narrative claiming that Martin was afraid of Zimmerman because Zimmerman was following him. But, as I've pointed out (and as the recoding of Zimmerman's call to police clearly shows), Martin ran from Zimmerman before he was followed by him. Martin didn't even realize that Zimmerman was there until he was right up near his vehicle. Martin ran almost immediately after spotting Zimmerman. Thus, he had some other reason for running.

What do you think that reason was? He just has an irrational fear of people sitting in their cars talking on their cell phones? Because up until the moment Martin ran, that's all he knew about Zimmerman. Clearly, there must have been some reason he'd specifically be afraid of a person sitting in a car on that street at that particular time talking on his cell phone. And IMO the most likely reason is that he thought Zimmerman was calling the cops on him. Assuming Martin doesn't normally just flee from people sitting in cars talking on the phone, it had to have been something Martin was doing himself that prompted him to be concerned that someone who could have seen him for the previous couple minutes was sitting there talking on a phone.

What could that have been?

Edited, Jul 18th 2013 4:31pm by gbaji

The dog licking dude's nuts. I bet he stashed peanut butter down there.

You guys ******* lied to me.

Well, I didn't vote for you.

Um excuse me, if it were me i'd be running and hiding too. Do we not teach our children NOT to talk to strangers - to get away from them, to assume they mean us harm?

Your blind bias is upsetting if I have to imagine others in this world are just as handicapped.



Edited, Jul 19th 2013 4:14pm by Elinda

Well, how'd he become king, then?

After much thought, I've come to the conclusion that strange women lying in ponds distributing swords can't be a much worse basis for government than what we're currently using.

Wait...

so we're not collecting automatons then?

Damn dyslexia.

You can always collect automatons if you want to Protein.