Congratulations gay couplesFollow

It's always encouraging to see someone's rating so low that they are automatically sub-default as soon as they post a new thread Karma system: working as intended.

Anyway, since I'm anathema, and to anyone bold enough to read a subdefault post--please if you have s readable karma post status that won't be mocked by Saudi moderators of this site, make a thread about this rather enormous victory for gay rights.

And slighty less civilly important but still impactive recreational weed-smoking rights.

I'm not feeling the love.

If you're really attempting to come off as congratulatory tolerant, you should probably not throw bigoted remarks into the very same paragraph

That and the topic has already come up in several currently active threads.

Are you referring to the mention of "Saudi"? I'm sure you're aware that this wasn't racist, it was nationalistist topical, since Saudi Arabia is the absolute worst destroyer of human and women (and obviously gay) rights in the Middle East, by far. So I thought it was apt, considering the Admin called my support for gay marriage a Great Example of karma working.

Anyway, "come off as congragulatory tolerant"? The hell does that mean? I don't care who marries anyone. I don't care who beds anyone else. If two people are happy with each other, that's awesome. At this point though, they only get hundreds of state and federal rights if they marry as an opposite sex couple. This is ********* You know all this.

Oh, you

I meant the karma system is working as intended because YOU are sub-default automatically. Note that it had nothing to do with your post: you were sub-D before you even posted it.

Good for gay marriage, and good for the Karma system!

I saw this post! Must fix karma!

derailed by immaturity

It's only remarkable if you haven't been paying attention for the last decade.

Sure, you folk can easily dismiss this, because you have no clue about US legal history. My point wasn't about "carrying elections", since both Romney and Obama are almost equally against legal weed and legal gay marriage. My point was that these two priviledges were approved by a majority of the population in several particular states.

It took LBJ and Congress to enact the Civil Rights Act. It took the Supreme Court to uphold abortion rights. No President or court or Congress has had an inkling to provide gays with marriage, or marijuana with legality (okay, on the latter, it was only illegal 20th Century...).

And yes, it is remarkable even if I've been paying attention the last decade. In the last decade every popular Proposition for gay marriage and for legal marijuana was shot down. In fact, there was a big movement for other state ballots to strictly define marriage as between a man and a woman, which voters approved. Voters not only approved gays marrying, and in at least one state I can't remember denied one of those bills to define man-woman marriage, but they also approved legal marijuana. Medicinal marijuana is already legal in 18 states. Gay marriage is legal in nine states.

This legalization has nothing to do with the earlier civil rights gains people have cited. Or at the very least, they only can be compared to very early advocation. The Federal Government declares marijuana a prohibited substance, and as Obama has shown, will heavily prosecute offenders. The Supreme Court has never been presented a case. Gay marriage is legal in many states, yet President Obama has not made a real effort to repeal Defense of Marriage Acts, which allows states not allowing it to not recognizing incoming couples. Federal Law, which permits 1000 or more legal rights/priviledges to same-sex married couples, does not permit one to same-sex spouses/couples. The Supreme Court, AFAIK, has not taken a case on this.

This is utterly unlike the Civil Rights era, at least as far as the final resolution. No US courts (except for California) have intervented. No President or Congress has intervened. It's now and until (when?) in individual states' hands to declare themselves opposed to the Federal Government's position of gay marriage not being recognized, and marijuana not being a legal product.

Do any of you actually think the Democratic Party currently advocates a "Legal Marijuana" or "Gay Marriage=Straight Marriage" position? How utterly naive are you? The times of stalwart civil rights advocaters like LBJ and RFK and JFK are gone. The times of stalwart rights agents of the court such as Marshall, Brandeis, Byron are gone (not only that they don't currently in part exist, but because they as a whole refuse to adjudicate on a case).

The Federal Government is way behind the population on these issues.

I like the cut of this guy's jib.

So, for the States that still don't allow gay marriage, Collegehunor has come up with a solution.


Gay Men Will Marry Your Girlfriends (NSFW, Language)

Favorite line, "What will you make her for breakfast? Burnt scrambled eggs? We'll make her a motherfucking quiche.