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#1 May 09 2012 at 1:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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...way to balls up! Obama says same-sex marriage should be legal

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#2 May 09 2012 at 1:39 PM Rating: Good
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Woo election year statements!
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#3 May 09 2012 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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hahaha, oh fox news: OBAMA FLIP FLOPS, DECLARES WAR ON MARRIAGE

It's like the Onion.

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#4 May 09 2012 at 1:55 PM Rating: Good
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hahaha, oh fox news: OBAMA FLIP FLOPS, DECLARES WAR ON MARRIAGE

It's like the Onion.

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If only they had a clip of him windsurfing.
#5 May 09 2012 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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This news made my day.
#6 May 09 2012 at 2:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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"Obama" you say, eh? I may have to check this chap out.
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#7 May 09 2012 at 2:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was wondering if this was coming, or if Grandpa Joe was just letting his mind wander off-message again this past weekend.

Good on you, Obama. Now if only his track record of delivering on election-year promises was slightly better (see: Bay, Guantanamo).
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#8 May 09 2012 at 2:10 PM Rating: Good
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This news made my day.
I know my day was boring, but damn.
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#9 May 09 2012 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
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He "ended" the Iraq thing. I have no idea what the current situation is like over there, but that was what was promised. Healthcare reform turned out to be a fiasco, he extended the Patriot Act and put that new thing into place that allows for indefinite detention. I'm not sold.
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(see: Bay, Guantanamo).

(see: Congress)
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#11 May 09 2012 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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"It's not my fault I made promises I couldn't keep" isn't exactly a resounding excuse.
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#13 May 09 2012 at 2:37 PM Rating: Good
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Demea wrote:
(see: Bay, Guantanamo).

(see: Congress)


Did you mean the Congress the Democrats had control of for the first 2 years of his presidency, or was this some fictional Congress you imagined up as being anti-Obama?
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When you learn more about Congress, let me know Smiley: laugh
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#15 May 09 2012 at 4:14 PM Rating: Excellent
Even when all 100 members of the Senate actually sort of agree on something, they'll split themselves down party lines half the time simply because they have a pathological inability to admit the other guy might be right.
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When you learn more about Congress, let me know Smiley: laugh


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Even when all 100 members of the Senate actually sort of agree on something, they'll split themselves down party lines half the time simply because they have a pathological inability to admit the other guy might be right.


You mean the Senate which is STILL controlled by the Democrats?

Or are you and Jophiel somehow backhandedly implying that not all of the Democrats in Congress actually support the Democrat currently serving as President. Perish the thought!!!
#17 May 09 2012 at 4:25 PM Rating: Good
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Does a super majority support the president 100% of the time? I hope not. If I wanted unthinking partisan loyalty, I'd vote Republican.
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#18 May 09 2012 at 4:38 PM Rating: Good
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Or be a Marine.
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#19 May 09 2012 at 5:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Long overdue, and glad that he was able to have that personal growth. Not sure how much he can do at the executive level, if anything. A federal law would have to be passed by Congress, and I know we're not there yet. I hope when we do get there that there is a sympathetic President in office who won't veto. So much needs to line up to give people a right that they should have never been denied in the first place.
#20 May 09 2012 at 7:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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'Bout damned time. I wonder if they were using Biden's coming out as a way of 'testing the waters'?
#21 May 09 2012 at 7:13 PM Rating: Decent
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What a surprise! It's almost like no one predicted this like 5 years ago or anything. I mean, what are the odds that Obama would insist he holds one position when he wants to avoid political conflict over it and instead focus on the economic record of the opposing party, but then switches to the exact opposite position when he's desperate for an issue, any issue to be the focus instead of his massively horrible economic record. Shocking I say. Shocking!


Partisan sniping aside, I understand why he felt had to make this move, but I don't think it's a good one. The folks he appeases with this were going to vote for him anyway. But there are a lot of Dem voters who aren't as on board with the whole gay marriage thing and most of them were folks he was in danger of losing already (mostly blue collar workers who've been hit hard economically as it is). This could tip a lot of votes away from him with little or no gain. I'm just not sure how much value they'll really get by putting this issue on the table. Sure, they get to zero in on the most extreme responses from the right and paint the GOP as gay haters, but they do that already. The concern is that now they'll be applying that label to folks who might otherwise have voted for them.

Just seems like this is the wrong issue and the wrong time to pull a "you're either with us or against us" move.
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What a surprise! Gbaji thinks this was a terrible move for Obama. No one could have predicted that, not even five years ago...
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#23 May 09 2012 at 7:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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No one could have predicted that, not even five years ago...
Pretty sure there's a cave painting of it somewhere.
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#24 May 09 2012 at 7:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Shocking!
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#25 May 09 2012 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I think this will excite the base a bit. By base, I mean all those college kids he had out stomping around for him in 07/08. This should level into more of a positive than a negative with more fundraising and a higher excitement level than the recent "ho-hum" attitude. Especially when Romney inserts his foot in his mouth by stating he supports DOMA. I would think due to previous arguments gbaji, you almost have to support Obama at the poll due to Mittens clearly overstepping his bounds in what the right views as a states issue.
#26 May 09 2012 at 9:18 PM Rating: Default
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I think this will excite the base a bit. By base, I mean all those college kids he had out stomping around for him in 07/08. This should level into more of a positive than a negative with more fundraising and a higher excitement level than the recent "ho-hum" attitude. Especially when Romney inserts his foot in his mouth by stating he supports DOMA.


I agree that this is what they're trying to do. I'm just not sure that it'll work. I really don't think that Obama's getting a relatively ho-hum attitude from college students this time around because he failed to do enough to push gay marriage forward. Or at least I don't think that's enough of the reason to increase their support at the polls anywhere near the number he'll lose among blue collar working class Dems. Gaining a small amount of excitement among a group that has one of the lowest voter turnout rates in return for alienating another group that has a much higher rate seems like a bad idea.

Maybe the Obama administration is seeing much more alarming numbers than I think though. I just kinda see this as a desperation move. To do so this early in the election process seems really strange. But it's not like I'm a political operative or anything, so what do I know?

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I would think due to previous arguments gbaji, you almost have to support Obama at the poll due to Mittens clearly overstepping his bounds in what the right views as a states issue.


Really? Do you have any clue how old and tired the whole "You should support someone whose policies you disagree with nearly 100% because the guy in your own party kinda sorta did something this one time that you might not agree with 100%"? It's really pretty moronic. Doubly so when I actually have no clue which thing you're trying to claim I should disagree with Romney on in the first place.

Care to elaborate?

Edited, May 9th 2012 8:19pm by gbaji
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